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[NYCorchidman]

You must be VERY IGNORANT about the whole situation!

Plant viruses are not confined to orchids. They affects many (if not all) other plants from food crops to cut flower plants. This is a website where orchid lovers talk about orchids.

Also, their damage in dollars is tremendous! For many many years, people didn't (many still don't, like you) care much about it. The result is just terrible!
The damage is going to go on or get worse because of people like you who laugh about it or think it's small.
It is not small at all!!!

Plus, it has always been a big deal! Only, a small number of people knew and cared about it years ago.

After all, impact of education goes a long way.

I used the term abused minority because general consumers are still not aware that there are such things as plant viruses or orchid viruses. and probably it doesn't matter to them as many people buy orchids just for home deco and then throw them away once flowers are gone. and that is fine.
What is not fine is that selling virused plants and not being responsible about it.
It matters a lot if you look at the larger picture.

---------- Post added at 09:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:16 PM ----------

Originally Posted by escualida

Whoa, first of all, I'm not saying I'm going to report every single vendor that ever sells me a virused plant. I'm referring to one vendor that is notorious for selling virused plants that won't give refunds unless you return said plants to them. I think that's a little suspicious and makes me think they are knowingly turning around and selling said plants to other unsuspecting customers.



You're right, I'm sure A LOT of people have virused plants, does this make it OK? Should we ignore the problem and hope it goes away by itself?



I did in fact take that into account and came to the conclusion that no, they did not catch it from any of my plants. Here is why: 3 of the 5 infected orchids came from Orchids.com, that's not a coincidence. The other 2 had their siblings tested by the vendors and surprise, surprise, viruses found. None of my other 45 or so other orchids have viruses.



Yes, I am aware that some plants don't show signs of viruses but that doesn't mean that it's not harmful. And even if that specific plant is not harmed by the virus it definitely is able to transmit it to other plants that it CAN be harmful to.



There is always a margin of error, however the plants tested by me were then CONFIRMED to have viruses by a reputable lab.

I'm sorry, I'm not going to agree with people who say that it's "just the way it is". A vendor must stand behind their products, simple as that. Viruses suck and sometimes it's not within the vendor's control, but that doesn't mean that the consumer has to pay the price. It's as simple as that.

I agree with everything you said.
Again, with "just the way it is" attitude, their will be no changes for the better and evil business will thrive.
Consumer protection and many other policies protecting people's right came with efforts and price.
No more discussion on this issue is necessary I guess.