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wuness 02-02-2014 02:56 PM

Please help simplify my label
 
I picked up a paph recently with a convoluted name. Could someone suggest a way to simplify this label without losing the essence of the name? The name is:

(Paph. Ang-Thong var. alba 'In Charm' x niveum var. 'Pathana') x Paph. niveum 'In Charm'.

wuness

orchidsarefun 02-02-2014 03:09 PM

as far as I can tell your paph is registered as Paph Greyi
Paph. Greyi is Paph. godefroyae x Paph. niveum.

sbrofio 02-02-2014 03:15 PM

I found this https://www.orchidweb.com/products/p...eyii~3200.html

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and this. This should be more or less the results, but don't know if there is a specific name of the hybrid you have: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...&stream_ref=10

Fairorchids 02-03-2014 12:00 AM

With double dose of niveum, the correct name is Paph Island Mist.

orchidsarefun 02-03-2014 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairorchids (Post 652704)
With double dose of niveum, the correct name is Paph Island Mist.


Paph Island Mist is Paph Greyi x Paph Mystic Isle.

Fairorchids 02-03-2014 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orchidsarefun (Post 652730)
Paph Island Mist is Paph Greyi x Paph Mystic Isle.

I wrote previous response from memory, shouldn't have.

Ang-Thong is not a valid species name, so this cross is actually Mystic Isle. If you cross that back to Greyi, you get Island Mist.

orchidsarefun 02-03-2014 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairorchids (Post 652760)
I wrote previous response from memory, shouldn't have.

Ang-Thong is not a valid species name, so this cross is actually Mystic Isle. If you cross that back to Greyi, you get Island Mist.


For OP
Paph. Ang-Thong var. alba 'In Charm' x niveum var. 'Pathana' = Paph Greyi
Paph Greyi x Paph. niveum 'In Charm' = Paph Mystic Isle.
According to OrchidWiz/Bakers ang-thong is a registered species - but as a pseudonym for Paph godefroyae. Yours is Paph mystic isle and was registered in 1988. I am surprised that the label was not corrected.

Fairorchids 02-03-2014 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orchidsarefun (Post 652772)
For OP
Paph. Ang-Thong var. alba 'In Charm' x niveum var. 'Pathana' = Paph Greyi
Paph Greyi x Paph. niveum 'In Charm' = Paph Mystic Isle.
According to OrchidWiz/Bakers ang-thong is a registered species - but as a pseudonym for Paph godefroyae. Yours is Paph mystic isle and was registered in 1988. I am surprised that the label was not corrected.

You shouldn't be surprised, since:

Botanist do not have much else to do, but revise names.

And:

Nurseries do not make money on changing labels (if they are even aware of the changes). Also, many nursery people are somewhat hung up on traditional names; my dad called Paphiopedilums Cypripediums well into the 1970's.

Ray 02-03-2014 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairorchids (Post 652775)
Nurseries do not make money on changing labels (if they are even aware of the changes).

Exactly.

To the best of my knowledge, these are coming out of one wholesale nursery in Hawaii (I've sold a ton of them myself), all labeled that way. Yep - Mystic Isle it is.

orchidsarefun 02-03-2014 09:04 AM

I can understand issues with recently registered plants, I have found a couple - even 1 on a vendor website. But this was registered 15+ years ago, and the OP said he obtained the paph recently.


oh - I see the Hawaii nursery is at fault for not updating its records.....


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