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Old 07-31-2013, 03:12 PM
jeremiah.chua jeremiah.chua is offline
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Yeah, it's pretty bad. My collection grew rapidly within a few months.
Blooming season has passed for me, it occurred early through mid summer. I miss their flowers A little disappointed they don't last for very long. From bloom till death, the flowers only run for about 3 weeks for me. But realistically, it's only about 7 days that they look picture perfect with the entire spike in full bloom and are NOT showing a decline (yet).

I still see some small buds forming that I strongly believe will turn into spikes, but I don't know if anything will happen with those till next year. Fall is approaching, dormancy looms near...
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:39 PM
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Been meaning to do a post about this topic for a while now but never had the free time to really write down everything I wanted to go over till now, so... here it goes.

Topic: Leaf spotting, "Sun damaged" and/or seen as purple/black pigmentation that derive from direct sunlight exposure

Not sure if anyone else has experienced this, but when you leave certain Neofinetias out in direct sunlight, they start developing purple/black pigmentation on their leaves. Not ALL Neofinetias seem to have this ability, only a select few in my experience. Variegated leaf Neos and most bean-leaf types don't seem to get this problem. However, some striped neos certainly do and colored flower types do as well. Probably a few others do too and I just haven't seen it yet. Of course, I do not believe my statements are 100% accurate, but I am speaking from my own personal experience. Hopefully others can chime in on their own experiences as well.

Anyway, backstory time: Check out this Neofinetia.
I received this Neofinetia 'Shirai-to-nishiki' on 4-17-13. It had sun damage, a leaf was practically burnt and other leaves had heavy black/purple pigmentation. It was NOT attractive to me. This type is supposed to get the "Purple" pigmentation when exposed to strong light, but I think it was exposed a little too much!
Picture of the BEFORE:

It was obvious that it did not need anymore sunlight to me. So I kept it away from direct afternoon light and only gave morning sun to reduce intensity. Check it out now 7-30-13:


Notice the improvement in color. The severely burnt leaf on the left fell off a month ago. A severely burnt leaf at the very bottom right (seen in the first pic) also fell off. Those were obvious goners as the entire leaf almost turned black. However, take a look at the very bottom leaf on the left side. Look at the first photo, now look at the AFTER photo.
Also, take note on the leaf behind the first plant you see in the center. There's actually a second plant there too. In the first photo, you see it has the purple/black spotting. In the second picture, it no longer has it. Huge difference in color!
I actually prefer it looking like the one in the second pic, over the first pic. I'm not sure if the purple pigmentation this variant is supposed to have refers to those black spotting or not. I am pretty sure it's supposed to be a cleaner magenta/purple coloration. So in my point of view, this plant recovered, in a sense, from overdosing of sun exposure. What do you folks think/prefer? First pic or second?

Furthermore, while I don't have photographic evidence, I had other plants that experienced this overexposure to the sun spotting. I had a Shutennou leaf that had gone almost completely black on the underside of the leaf. But ever since I removed it from direct sunlight, it has reverted back to green. A Raikoumaru leaf that was pitch black, is now green again (slightly yellow tint, very very subtle though).

Conclusion? If you find your plants getting the purple/black spotting and don't like it? Get it out of the sun! It CAN heal. I know other folks have asked about these sun spots before and asked if it was permanent or not. I hope this post helps others out because the answer is NO, it is NOT permanent. It can go away if you take it out of direct sun exposure.

Have a great day y'all!
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:28 PM
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Wow, the transformation is amazing. Thanks for posting this, jeremiah.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:35 PM
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Wow, the transformation is amazing. Thanks for posting this, jeremiah.
Yes truly amazing....great info Jeremiah.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:59 AM
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Posting an update on my 'Momoyama-Nishiki' . Got it back on June 1, 2013 from Seed-Engei at the San Jose Orchid show.



Here it is now. Since I received it, it has only finished growing the leaf it had sprout when I first got it and is now growing a new leaf. Variegation is decent... but not amazing in my book. The original 'Momoyama-Nishiki' I saw in Satomi's Neofinetia booklet was drop-dead gorgeous. This seedling pales in comparison. I can only hope that in time, it gets better.



Is anyone else keeping this variant? I would like to see other people's 'Momoyama-Nishiki'. How is this plant growing for you? I'm not getting much purple variegation, if anything, I lost what little purple I had on its leaves (not the base). Tips?
Also, I was told by Satomi that this plant is supposed to get a decent size because it came from an Amami-furan. This plant that I have, however, is probably only around 2 inches wide. It doesn't seem to be growing any bigger than that. To be quite honest, I have no problem with how small it is. If anything, I would prefer it to stay this size because I find it adorable. A small variegated neo? Cute! I am, however, curious if anyone out there has more experience with this plant and can shed some light on it, based on their own personal experience.
Also, what color are your roots? I swear I thought I heard Satomi say it was supposed to get Ruby roots. But mine is producing mud brown roots. Perhaps I'm imagining what I heard because I want ruby roots so bad. Or maybe it's just a luck of the draw with root color and this variant. After all, my regular Amami-Furan did have mud brown, ruby and green root tips at one point, all at the same time.

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Old 08-14-2013, 01:46 AM
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love the Manazaru! I'm pretty sure that my Nishidemiyako is throwing a growth that is mutated to Manazaru! The new growth is still small, but I can clearly see that it's a white center with green margins!
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Old 08-14-2013, 04:06 AM
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I have a Momoyama too and its growing a new growth. Mine does have purple/magenta in some areas, but mine is as small as yours is. I'll have to get back to you on the roots though. I didn't notice any ruby red roots, like with Homeiden.
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:18 AM
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love the Manazaru! I'm pretty sure that my Nishidemiyako is throwing a growth that is mutated to Manazaru! The new growth is still small, but I can clearly see that it's a white center with green margins!
That's awesome!! Your $40 Neo just turned into $150!
I have a small growth coming in right now as well. I strongly believe, if it is a growth and not a spike, that it will be a Manazuru again. Wooo!

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I have a Momoyama too and its growing a new growth. Mine does have purple/magenta in some areas, but mine is as small as yours is. I'll have to get back to you on the roots though. I didn't notice any ruby red roots, like with Homeiden.
A new growth coming in? That's awesome! When did you get it? Can I see a picture please?
How are you growing it? Under lights? How high/low? Lots of purple/pink pigmentation? I really want some purple/pink on it Same with my Shirai-To-Nishiki. It doesn't have pink/purple anymore too! Which in my eyes, it's just a larger version of Momoyama-nishiki.
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Old 08-14-2013, 04:28 PM
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[QUOTE=jeremiah.chua;597498]That's awesome!! Your $40 Neo just turned into $150!
I have a small growth coming in right now as well. I strongly believe, if it is a growth and not a spike, that it will be a Manazuru again. Wooo![COLOR="Silver"]
I know The best part? I got it for $15

The growth is tiny, but it's unmistakable!
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:02 PM
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Pics or it didn't happen, Quay...
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