Temperature and Flower Color
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Temperature and Flower Color
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Temperature and Flower Color Members Temperature and Flower Color Temperature and Flower Color Today's PostsTemperature and Flower Color Temperature and Flower Color Temperature and Flower Color
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 1 votes, 1.00 average. Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-06-2009, 04:37 PM
ronaldhanko ronaldhanko is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,386
Default Temperature and Flower Color

The flower shown, Slc. Dream Catcher, has just bloomed for the third time this year. When it flowers during the summer the flowers are a light orange with none of the red veining that is evident in these flowers. During the winter they are a dark orange with considerable red veining. This is typical of flowers (not only orchids) that are in the yellow to red range. Temperature affects the production of anthocyanins and carotenoids, the chemicals that produce these colors. At higher temperatures lesser amounts of these are produced and the flowers are paler in color. At lower temperatures the opposite happens, and the flowers can appear very different in color.

Last edited by ronaldhanko; 11-21-2016 at 12:07 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-06-2009, 04:41 PM
Ross Ross is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Zone: 5a
Posts: 9,277
Default

That's good to know and maybe a start of another thread regarding this tendency? Not just this plant but others as well. I, certainly, am interested in the answer to the question of temperature affecting coloration.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-06-2009, 05:18 PM
karren karren is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Zone: 6a
Location: Ohio River Valley
Posts: 60
Temperature and Flower Color Female
Default

Best thing I've heard about colder temps.

I had a Bl. Morning Glory or Maidosa bloom last year with almost no color; ir was so pale it was just off-white, previously it had a lovely violet cast.

How about light affecting color? My Mtssa. Royal Robe 'Jerry's Pick' finished blooming with the deep, rich burgandy color and all the same color. I got a new bench and light for the greenhouse and stuck ithe plant right under the light. Well I sunburned many leaves and the flowers that just opened are paler in color and show more variation.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-06-2009, 05:24 PM
MuscleGirl'sHobby MuscleGirl'sHobby is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 4b
Location: Idaho
Posts: 911
Default

Thanks for that information! I can now more clearly understand why a picture of the orchid might not match what blooms in my care. For orchids that bloom multiple times in a year, this could be pretty neat though. It's like having 2 (or more) orchids in one!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-06-2009, 05:58 PM
Tindomul's Avatar
Tindomul Tindomul is offline
Moderator
 

Join Date: May 2005
Zone: 7b
Location: Queens, NY, & Madison County NC, US
Age: 45
Posts: 19,374
Default

Light could also be a factor, as light intensity rises in the summer as well. Does your orchid receive more light in the summer time as well? I guess the only real way of controlling for light is to grow under lights in a basement.
__________________
"We must not look at goblin men,
We must not buy their fruits:
Who knows upon what soil they fed
Their hungry thirsty roots?"

Goblin Market
by Christina Georgina Rossetti
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-06-2009, 08:55 PM
ronaldhanko ronaldhanko is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,386
Default

From what I've read it is not so much light intesity as temperature, but obviously a plant that is getting more light is probably also getting higher temperatures, if not ambient temperatures then certainly at the leaf and bud surface.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-07-2009, 12:07 PM
tuvoc tuvoc is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Zone: 7a
Member of:AOS
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 7,362
Temperature and Flower Color Male
Default

This reminds me of an informal and very unscientific experiment I read about in the AOS Bulletin many years ago.Three members of the staff each acquired a plant of Vuyl. Cambria 'Plush', a very famous clone at the time. Each took it home, and grew it under thier own conditions. When they bloomed, they compared the resulting blooms, which showed such dramatic variations, they appeared to be three different crosses altogether. The conclusion was that different growing conditions can affect flowering characteristics significantly.

Kim
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-07-2009, 12:28 PM
ronaldhanko ronaldhanko is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,386
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tuvoc View Post
This reminds me of an informal and very unscientific experiment I read about in the AOS Bulletin many years ago.Three members of the staff each acquired a plant of Vuyl. Cambria 'Plush', a very famous clone at the time. Each took it home, and grew it under thier own conditions. When they bloomed, they compared the resulting blooms, which showed such dramatic variations, they appeared to be three different crosses altogether. The conclusion was that different growing conditions can affect flowering characteristics significantly.

Kim
Do you have a reference for that article, Kim? Sounds like something I'd like to read.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-07-2009, 01:36 PM
tuvoc tuvoc is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Zone: 7a
Member of:AOS
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 7,362
Temperature and Flower Color Male
Default

Ron, it was a VERY long time ago, when they were still in located in Cambridge, Mass. I'm not sure if I still have that issue. Might check the AOS website.

Kim
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-08-2009, 02:28 PM
ronaldhanko ronaldhanko is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,386
Default

On this particular plant the light intensity is the same year around - so are watering and fertilizing regimes. It is very definitely the temperature that affects the flower color and I have noticed the same with other hybrids of Sophronitis coccinea. This has been demonstrated with other flowers as well: carnations for example (http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/articl...6A0491900.php). Some commercial growers of cut orchids even recommend placing the plants in a cool house for a time before cutting the flowers in order to strengthen flower color.

Last edited by ronaldhanko; 01-08-2009 at 02:33 PM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
color, flowers, orange, red, veining, flower, temperature


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
5 Good Neofientias Everyone Should Have Fuukiran Vanda Alliance - Neofinetia 58 10-01-2015 12:07 AM
Getting large cymbidiums to flower in warmer climates SueK Cymbidium Alliance 4 10-03-2008 07:47 PM
aging/temperature and flower patterns philoserenus Hybrids 2 12-03-2007 01:40 AM
Flower Question eorchids Cattleya Alliance 7 07-12-2006 03:08 PM
doritaenopsis(limon living color) tshalack Hybrids 3 06-29-2006 02:37 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:14 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.