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Reeses 02-09-2015 05:03 PM

Why do I still have mineral buildup?
 
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I recently made the conversion to using R/O water for watering. At my old house the water was extremely hard, and left mineral buildup very quickly. My hope was that using R/O water would negate (or at least minimize) this problem.

I have a little paph seedling (it said it was "near blooming size") in S/H. When I saw it was getting the buildup even with R/O water, I repotted it with brand new LECA. But the mineral/salt buildup came back! How come I'm still getting this buildup? I'm concerned it might damage the roots on this little paph.

Joseia 02-09-2015 05:54 PM

First, RO water does still have some minerals/salts, just much less than your unfiltered tap water. My RO system gets rid of 90-95 percent according to my TDS meter, but there is still some in there. I had the same problem as you when I first tried S/H and also got an RO system. I'm definitely no expert on SH, but here's what I did and it seems to be working so far:

I rinse and drain the LECA for about a week before using, rinsing and draining every night to get out any salts in the media.

Flush the pots ALOT with unfertilized water on a weekly basis.

Mine are now in terrariums with humidity around 75% - the media now stays more moist longer.

I have no idea if any of the above will work for you, but it works for me in my environment.

Subrosa 02-09-2015 05:57 PM

Have you ever tested the product water for tds?

Reeses 02-09-2015 10:21 PM

Thanks for the quick replies! I forgot to mention that I am flushing frequently with plain R/O water, which is partly why I was confused.

Subrosa, I haven't checked the tds in a while--I should probably do that. The system was brand-new when we built the house, so I don't think it's time for a filter change, but it could be! Once fertilizer is added, what is a good tds to shoot for?

Subrosa 02-10-2015 06:19 AM

0 is nice, but not always practical to achieve. Consider that most ro systems are 98% to 99% efficient. In other words if the water entering the system has 100ppm tds, the product water wil have 1 or 2 ppm. My tap water runs closer to 200ppm, and I know of folks on private wells whose water measures well over twice that high in tds. Typical one membrane systems won't give you 0 tds with input water like that. Without knowing the tds of the source water it's impossible to determine how well the membrane is performing.

Ray 02-10-2015 09:50 AM

It could be manufacturing residues in the LECA.
  • The starting clay is not pure.
  • Then add chemicals to bind the particles together and others to literally take up space in the pellets to create pores.
  • Fire the pellets.
The additives and impurities in the clay - both organic and inorganic - can react with the additives and form soluble salts that reside throughout the pellet. As you water, they dissolve, are transported upward, and deposited when the water evaporates.

Leafmite 02-10-2015 09:54 AM

I hope you get this solved. We have a water softener so our water is unusable. I always envy the people that just water under their tap without any problem at all. :|

wintergirl 02-10-2015 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafmite (Post 732004)
I hope you get this solved. We have a water softener so our water is unusable. I always envy the people that just water under their tap without any problem at all. :|

Couldn't you run a water line from before your water softener to a tap you could use? Do you use this softened water to drink and cook? It may have a great deal of sodium in it.

Subrosa 02-10-2015 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafmite (Post 732004)
I hope you get this solved. We have a water softener so our water is unusable. I always envy the people that just water under their tap without any problem at all. :|

If you have an outdoor hose bib it likely is supplied with pre-softener water.

Leafmite 02-10-2015 09:40 PM

No, everything here runs through the water softener. The main waterline goes directly to the water softener before branching off. With the water we have, that is actually a good idea. :|

Theoretically, the salt and calcium combine and you shouldn't be consuming that much salt. Still, yes, that is something that we do worry about. However, I grew up getting my water from the Ohio river and that water was pretty bad (though it wouldn't hurt the plants, I think, just killed off my fish now and then) so I see this as an improvement.


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