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Stefus_Prime 04-18-2013 02:03 AM

Going to try Sedirea Japonic, input?
 
After some looking I found a place that sells Sedirea Japonica about an hour away so the plan is to stop by there on Saturday. However, I am wondering if anyone can give me any input as to how difficult these plants are to keep? I keep phals and one oncidium in my room with reasonable success, is the sedirea about the same difficulty wise? Any special care? I looked some stuff up online and some people say they keep dying on them while others say they're pretty simple to keep. Input appreciated

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Forgot to note:
Growing on my window sill, so reasonable indirect sunlight
Humidity in the summer is around 50-60%, pretty dry in the winter
Temperature is 70F-85F depending if the central air is on or not, in the winter it can be as low as 55F, usually in the lower 60s.

I have heard these plants need a "cool down" period when winter comes or else they will die, can anyone explain this more?

cbuchman 04-18-2013 09:01 AM

I bought one earlier this year and the vendor indicated it is easy to grow. I've already got several new roots tips (:)). Most websites also list is as easy to grow.

I'll let you know this time next year when I've re-bloomed it. Your conditions sound a lot like mine.

BTW, it smells delicious!

sweetjblue 04-18-2013 09:41 AM

Sedirea japonica like medium light so slightly more than phals but less than catts.
Your temps should be ok as they like (in their native habitat) summers of 78-87 degree days and nights of 66-74 and kept moist. In winter ( Nov-Feb)they enjoy temps of 53-56 days and nights of 37-40 with the potting mix allowed to become somewhat dry.
I've killed a couple after repotting and was told that the base of the plant needs to be raised slighty from the mix or else they tend to rot, which is what mine did. When I repotted I used a mix of sphag, bark, perlite and charcoal to keep the roots well aerated but retain moisture and it seems to work pretty well on my new one.
Hope this helps and answers some of your questions.:)

Judi

Leafmite 04-18-2013 11:25 AM

I have two and they are both in small chips of red lava rock. If you can grow phals, you shouldn't have trouble with these. I do give mine the same light as all my vanda falcata, so, higher light than phals for the winter and bright shade in summer (with a little morning direct sun). They are prone to crown rot, just as phals, so I lost one I'd had for a couple of years last summer as I didn't realize our usual summer breezes were missing and I was watering quite a bit. I don't worry too much about the temperatures and they seem to bloom anyway (my new daruma-type seemed too young to bloom but insisted on it anyway). Our home is about twenty degrees cooler in the winter than summer which might have something to do with this. If you have any vanda falcata (neo's), it is basically the same. I don't fertilize them in the winter and they are basically a little dryer as the furnace dries everything quickly but I don't let the roots die. Good luck! If you don't have a falcata, pick up one of those, too! :)

King_of_orchid_growing:) 04-18-2013 07:05 PM

Great plant.

Easier to grow than Phals.

Will do good in your conditions.

I used to grow this outdoors year round here in SoCal. Did wonderfully.

Stefus_Prime 04-18-2013 08:49 PM

Thanks everyone! I think I'm gonna go ahead and buy it this weekend if you guys say it should be good, pretty excited to have my first "exotic" orchid haha

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Originally Posted by Leafmite (Post 567906)
I have two and they are both in small chips of red lava rock. If you can grow phals, you shouldn't have trouble with these. I do give mine the same light as all my vanda falcata, so, higher light than phals for the winter and bright shade in summer (with a little morning direct sun). They are prone to crown rot, just as phals, so I lost one I'd had for a couple of years last summer as I didn't realize our usual summer breezes were missing and I was watering quite a bit. I don't worry too much about the temperatures and they seem to bloom anyway (my new daruma-type seemed too young to bloom but insisted on it anyway). Our home is about twenty degrees cooler in the winter than summer which might have something to do with this. If you have any vanda falcata (neo's), it is basically the same. I don't fertilize them in the winter and they are basically a little dryer as the furnace dries everything quickly but I don't let the roots die. Good luck! If you don't have a falcata, pick up one of those, too! :)


Falcata? As in Neofinetia falcata? These look really cool but don't seem like they will be too easy to track down, I guess the thrill is in the hunt?

King_of_orchid_growing:) 04-18-2013 09:57 PM

Neofinetia falcata are ridiculously easy to track down. Most sellers carry this species. Only a few select sellers sell the special variants that can command high prices depending on the type.

Usually, if you're able to find Sedirea japonica, the seller might also carry Neofinetia falcata at the same time.

Stefus_Prime 04-18-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 568067)
Neofinetia falcata are ridiculously easy to track down. Most sellers carry this species. Only a few select sellers sell the special variants that can command high prices depending on the type.

Usually, if you're able to find Sedirea japonica, the seller might also carry Neofinetia falcata at the same time.

I guess I should have checked earlier, the place I'm going to has them, but they appear to be sold out. Either way I'm over budget so probably for the best hahahaha

Bud 04-19-2013 02:38 PM

You are 10 degrees colder than my zone....and we have the same indoor temperature and humidity....but I put an electric humidifier with oscillating fan in summer because my AC can dry my plants bigtime.
I am also a windowsill grower and my Sedirea japonica is grouped with my Neofinetia falcata and is given the same equal watering regimen and fertilizer everyday in summer....in winter I water them every other day; I also hold fertilizer if they are in bloom.

I have the Sedirea elevated in moss like the Neos with samurai method of potting.

Stefus_Prime 04-19-2013 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bud (Post 568257)
You are 10 degrees colder than my zone....and we have the same indoor temperature and humidity....but I put an electric humidifier with oscillating fan in summer because my AC can dry my plants bigtime.
I am also a windowsill grower and my Sedirea japonica is grouped with my Neofinetia falcata and is given the same equal watering regimen and fertilizer everyday in summer....in winter I water them every other day; I also hold fertilizer if they are in bloom.

I have the Sedirea elevated in moss like the Neos with samurai method of potting.


I bought it today, was gonna go for the falcata but I don't think my wallet would forgive me this time haha. I noticed you're in NY, have you ever been to JL Orchid in CT? I ask because they tell me a lot of out of staters come and it's next to New York.

My room is usually hotter and more humid than the rest of the house in the summer, in the winter is when things get really dry. Do you have any tutorials on hand for that potting method? It looks really cool in the pictures, so far mine is in a little planter pot.


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