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lobotomizedgoat 10-23-2021 04:38 AM

Free new Oncidium growth from leaf?
 
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I picked up this lovely hybrid at Trader Joe's in early September. The last few buds are just barely opening now but it has already put forth a new growth off the primary pseudobulb. I'm assuming that it is a new bulb.

Should I cut the leaf now or wait for the new growth to cleave it on its own? It seems a bit fussy, but I don't want to deform any new growth if I can avoid it.

Ray 10-23-2021 08:12 AM

Leave it alone.

Dusty Ol' Man 10-23-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lobotomizedgoat (Post 971224)
I picked up this lovely hybrid at Trader Joe's in early September. The last few buds are just barely opening now but it has already put forth a new growth off the primary pseudobulb. I'm assuming that it is a new bulb.

Should I cut the leaf now or wait for the new growth to cleave it on its own? It seems a bit fussy, but I don't want to deform any new growth if I can avoid it.

Plants in the wild don't have anyone to "cut the leaf" for them, so they must not need us to do it in our collections. I've never heard this before. From where did this advice come?

rbarata 10-23-2021 03:51 PM

I can't see anything that should be cut.

BobcatJohnson 10-23-2021 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty Ol' Man (Post 971246)
Plants in the wild don't have anyone to "cut the leaf" for them, so they must not need us to do it in our collections. I've never heard this before. From where did this advice come?

More than one you-tuber makes this recommendation. The advice being to cut old dried up leaves that are too hard for new roots to push through. This allows for new roots to push straight into the substrate without interference. I have seen one or two videos where they recommend to cut green leaves below the new growth for the same purpose, but personally i disagree. If the leaf is still green and tender the new roots should have no problem piercing through. I would only cut a leaf that was interfering with new roots, pushing them upwards instead of allowing them to seek moisture below.

Roberta 10-23-2021 05:22 PM

I wouldn't even worry about the roots sometimes pointing upwards... that's not unnatural. Some (like Dendrobiums, Cymbidiums, Ansellia) send a bunch of roots upwards anyway (especially as the pot gets crowded), it is a way to trap leaves and other detritus. Let the plant do what it wants to do. Definitely don't rush to cut!

lobotomizedgoat 10-24-2021 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty Ol' Man (Post 971246)
Plants in the wild don't have anyone to "cut the leaf" for them, so they must not need us to do it in our collections. I've never heard this before. From where did this advice come?

It was just a random thought that occurred to me. My first instinct is generally to leave things alone, but figured I might as well ask just in case.

As for wild plants, they don't undergo many of the treatments that home grower apply, whether for aesthetic reasons or to increase survival. I rather like some of the interested and differentiated forms of wild plants, but they can also end up deformed and many certainly die due to poor circumstances that an external actor could have remedied.

Thanks for the advice, everyone!

Ray 10-24-2021 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BobcatJohnson (Post 971250)
More than one you-tuber makes this recommendation. The advice being to cut old dried up leaves that are too hard for new roots to push through.

People don’t seem to understand that there is no “motion” as a root grows. They seem to think that they grow similarly to the way toothpaste is squeezed out of a tube, while in fact, cells are added at the tip. When there is an obstacle, the cells are just added in a different direction to get around it.


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