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Laticauda 04-11-2019 09:00 PM

large, dark purple flowers and heavy fragrance
 
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I saw this at Trader Joe's and when I went back it was still there so I bought it. It has a heavy fragrance that's pleasant in a large room but overpowering in an enclosed space, lol.
I'm looking for what the types of orchids that went into this hybrid so I know whether or not I can even keep it happy in my care.
Also as a side note, would this be considered peloric? I'm not even sure if peloria is possible in these types of orchids but I had to pay close attention in order to orientate the flower properly with the lip at the bottom for a photo.
Thanks for any info yall can provide!

I'm not sure why the photos are oriented the way they are. I tried to rotate them each by 90° but the forum flips them to the way they are now no matter which way they are in my phone. Sorry everyone.

MrHappyRotter 04-11-2019 09:06 PM

Someone will hopefully chime in with more specifics, but a general ID would be Zygopetalum alliance hybrid, probably intergeneric. That should give you a starting point for care.

Laticauda 04-11-2019 09:23 PM

Thank you MrHappyRotter. Do you keep any from this alliance? I am guessing that means it needs go be kept pretty cool (problem in the summer) and humid (problem in the winter) lol.
I better hang onto the receipt!

P.s. I actually know basically nothing about zygos so even my assumption could be way off base.

MrHappyRotter 04-12-2019 07:40 AM

I don't grow anything in the Zygo alliance.

Pure Zygopetalums have a reputation for languishing in my area due to the heat, and the only folks I know who've had success with them long term seem to struggle with them and/or live in cooler areas.

If it's pure Zygopetalum, they do best when protected from warmer temperatures, given a cool off at night, and they do appreciate humidity. There are some efforts to produce more warmth tolerate hybrids and I believe there are some species that are a bit easier to grow in warmer climates than others. However, I think the bulk of warmth tolerant Zygopetalum hybrids are intergeneric hybrids (i.e. crossing them with warmth tolerate or even warm growing relatives).

Unfortunately, I don't know enough about this group to say with certainty whether your plant is pure zygo or intergeneric. However, if it is intergeneric, there's a good chance it'll be more temperature tolerant.

aliceinwl 04-12-2019 10:52 AM

I can't offer any further ID advice, but I bought one that looked like this from Trader Joe's too. Of the Zygopetalum types I've bought from Trader Joe's, this one seems to be the least cold tolerant. It also really did not like root disturbance so be careful when repotting (better to leave a bit of the old media in place and the roots relatively untraumatized). If the Zygo has a really good root system, I've just plopped the whole thing into a larger clay pot with a cursory rinse and filled any remaining space with a small grade bark mix.

I grow mine outside, summer highs around me are usually in the mid 70s with nights dropping into the 50s. They get a very brief bit of morning sun, but otherwise bright shade. Unlike my other Zygos, this one does not seem to tolerate winter nights dipping into the upper 30s well and is the least tolerant of water on its leaves.

Roberta 04-12-2019 05:47 PM

One of the Zygo relatives used in the mix of some hybrids is the genus Aganesia. Those are warm growers, so if is in background of the plant, would explain lack of cold tolerance. One of the hazards of NOIDs... you miss this sort of detail that would help with the culture.

rbarata 04-12-2019 05:54 PM

Some info here: Zygopetalum


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