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BEWARE Markbleg the dishonest.
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ok, here is a quick story, about this fraud and dishonest person under the nickname Markbleg on ebay
the story goes as this, i saw a plant that looked like to be a mislabelled cattleya percivaliana, it was posted as c.gaskeliana coerulea so i decided to offer 65 for it , as it look as it could use some TLC. he replied back with 70 or 75 USD offer that i accepted. he mentioned that the plant was out of bloom, and i replied that there was no issue as long as the plant was the same. when i opened the box here, i notice the plant was not the same, i contacted the seller, and he keeps claiming the plant was the the same pictured. So in this funny experiment i would like to post the pictures of the plant i got , and compare it with the plants i bought ( they are not the same for me) please look and provide your input. the plant i bought : Attachment 118039 Attachment 118040 plant i recieved : Attachment 118041 Attachment 118042 Attachment 118043 Please look to the pictures above and let me know if it is the same plant pictured here : AWESOME Cattleya gaskelliana var. coerulea 'Big Blue' FLOWERS 4" SPECIES (pictures in this link shows the original plant sold) i spent time with him sending pictures to prove him he sent the wrong plant. but he kept the same lame excuse that the plant i got was the same as pictured, as you can see from his replied to my negative feedback , : eBay Feedback Profile for marblekg , i provided negative after 24 hours of me sending him emails and provide window of opportunity for him to do the right thing ,. that was : 1. send the right plant. or 2, provide a full refund,. considering that he sent the wrong plant. he now said that i shipped out of the country and then i complaint, well i saw the plant when it arrived here , i did not saw the plant in the US, people that got the plant only consolidate and proceed with bring the plants here, they simply dont know more other than pack plants , and provide Paperwork to the authorities here. also i do not posses permits to send Plants to the US, hence can ship it back to the person. just a word of advice to keep yourself away from markbleg the dishonest. draw your own conclusions. |
If it is the same type of plant, does it matter? The one in the listing photo looks pretty rough, and the one you received looks healthier. Am I missing something?
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Becky, please let me know if you think it is the same plant or not. because to me it is not the same plant, for the seller he keep insisting it is the same plant that he listed, which for me it is a lie. thanks!@ |
This is the reason why I stay away from EBay. There are some good sellers out there, and you hear about them through reputation (or sometimes they are the same companies that sell through established websites).
IMO, yes, the two plants do not appear to be the same. |
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BUT there is people like markbleg the dishonest , well actually a fraud, and a liar .... what was kinda funny is that even with the evidence shown in pictures, he keep saying it is the same plant he pictured for the auction. reality is hitting him in the face and he keeps lying all the way to the end. . i am posting this for anyone who reads this, to be careful, and to avoid this seller like the plague, as he can rip you off . and still claim you got the right plant/product. |
Clearly, these are not pictures of the same plant unless it went through several years of new growth between these sets of pictures and old growth was removed. Old shriveled pseudobulbs as seen in the first pictures never plump up to the extent seen in the plant received. Possibly divisions the same plant, but not THE same plant.
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I've seen his listings come up in a save search over the past two years, and I decided long ago not to risk buying from him simply because so many of the plants he offers look really horrible/sick/neglected, and yet he is asking premium prices for most of them! I don't think so.
Thanks for the warning. It pretty much confirms what I suspected. However, I gotta say - the plant you DID get looks far healthier than that wizened near-corpse of a Cattleya in his original photos. |
well since fair game is fair game,and i like to provide an opportunity to defend himself, (pretty sure he is not going to show up in here anytime soon) to say it is the same plant. LOL!
i sent him this thru ebay messaging system : Dear marblekg, http://www.orchidboard.com/community...tml#post788448 enjoy! some free promotion for yourself! and he responded : Dear palm521, Thank you I will forward to ebay. LOOOOOL! what is he going to say? "look EBAY" this guy is talking bad about me in orchidboard!!! LOL! ---------- Post added at 03:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:32 PM ---------- Quote:
the problem comes when i get something that was not what i bought, and when confronted i had this markbleg guy , say : "it is the EXACT plant i(he) pictured for Ebay" . the plant he posted was pictured on dec 30 /2015 ., as you can see in the attached files. so again the plant i got is the same plant ? that was in bloom on dec 30? OF COURSE NOT! ---------- Post added at 03:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:39 PM ---------- Quote:
it is not a division , you can clearly see the old tiny pbulbs, it is something that for me was seed propagated, i bought a plant for its genetics shown , asked to have the exact plant pictured in ebay shipped to me , and i got something else. then this guy claims it is the same as pictured. honestly i dont really care for the 70 bucks,however i do care when people try to insult my intelligence. even with the pictures shown as proof , he still tried to play the smart arse claiming it was the same plant, (amazed) he could have found solutions, but all i got was it is the same plant i posted on ebay... he offered a refund if i send the plant back to him, but i cant send the plant back to the US because i dont have permits to do so. but again nothing of this would happened if he sent out the right plant to begin with. just BEWARE . and be VERY careful if you are trying to do any business with him... thats it! |
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i am just providing an ebay experience , so everyone is aware and avoids getting the same treatment i got from this guy, i am following the laws of the country i live in. the reason i cant send it back is because i dont have the legal means to introduce plants back to the states. so it cant be done. and will not be done of course. |
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is it necessary to prove you that all the plants that i buy in other countries are imported to Mexico Legally? just for your information, : there are a lot (thousands) of potted cymbidiums that are distributed in a huge network of retail places, big chunk of those cymbidiums comes from California! ( i dont import those btw but they come LEGALLY) , same with Phalaenopsis that come Potted from Holland, (alongside tulips, when in season) also vandas and dendrobium from thailand (yes vanda comes without pottinx mix but dendrobiums are potted) etc etc etc, the rules that apply in the states are different than the ones that apply in other countries. wouldn't you agree? do you mind if we keep ourselves to the topic that was the EBAY experience and how i got ? maybe you can help with the question i asked in the opening post? now looking into the pictures , do you think the plant i got is the same plant that was bought at ebay? thank you Subrosa! best regards palm! |
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since you keep pushing it,and do not listen, i will not be replying to you regarding this importation topic anymore, only this once, understood you made your point, i made mine, thanks for your input. please understand that i simply don't want to share the process, suffice to know that the plants that comes here , regardless of where they come from, comes legally, my apologies for what i have to say but, if you don't believe it , it is your problem, not mine. and i cannot be forced to respond on this topic until you are satisfied with my answer. does it makes sense? now please i beg you to stay on topic. |
I would say this is still "on topic" since part of your complaint involves your unwillingness to comply with the seller's request to return the plant for a refund and your stated reasons why you "can't". I'd say that's very relevant to the subject.
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still the problem of claiming that the plant is the same, is what i feel was bad, i would be better to say, i made a mistake, and sent the wrong plant, if i had seem that attitude then, other outcome would have come... it is that insulting my intelligence playing until the end that it is the same plant posted, that actually got me in my bad side. i am pretty sure he knew he sent the wrong plant when i wrote to him , was his dishonesty of not taking any responsibility that allowed me to present the case. mistakes makes anyone, dishonesty is something that i cant tolerate. and he was dishonest all the way to the end. as i said before i dont really care about 70 bucks, the attitude of claiming it was the same even with the proof in front of him, was what trigger my rage (so to speak) Edit) being said that. the fact of me returning or not the plant for me at this point for a refund was irrelevant, as it will not erase the fact that he tried to trick me to the end. (need screenshot? more than willing to provide it!) |
Want to hear something interesting? I contacted the seller posing as a foreign buyer and asked if he could provide phytosanitary certification on his plants. Guess what his answer was? " No, sorry ". That means you did not comply with the laws of your country in obtaining the plant. From the seller's point of view, you're not making sense because you had no problems with skirting the law to get the plant, so why do you suddenly get sanctimonious about skirting the same laws to return it? From my point of view, you're complaing about a seller being dishonest to you, but have no problem being dishonest with us. You clearly stated that you followed all the laws of your country in this transaction, and you clearly didn't follow those laws. Ok, the seller may not be the greatest, and I wrote him off long ago for exactly the reasons Whimgrinder stated. But how should I treat someone who lied directly to me? I'll be nice and give you some advice. There's a legal concept known as " clean hands". What it essentially means is that you lose all right to civil recourse if your own behavior breaks the law. In the future, if you want to import plants, do so legally, or accept the consequences without complaining.
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subrosa,... the plant was delivered within the states. in there i have a custom agent company that has offices in here and also in the border, , that gets everything in order so it can cross the border and pass the mexican customs including sagarpa papers , semarnat papers, import permit and also the taxes that needs to be paid when importing plants!. so yes they come here legally. so now you know... , you only need phytosanitary from the vendor when the vendor ships outside the US to another country. alongside with a bunch of other papers. plus the stuff you need to have in order to allow customs deliver the plants. plants also get sampled in customs (at the officer discretion) and plants are sent to a UMA in mexico (which btw i have) , if they feel the tissue and the plant needs to be analyzed., there are different regulations for Bark and for dirt. (did you know that?) i am not the expert , i pay for expert services , a company that also helps me run my business. and importation needs! they do the grunt work , i provide the resources to have the machine working. . i move container worth , pallets and pallets of Consumer electronics. products so yes i have a freaking Custom office that DEALS everything for me, and i receive perfectly legal plants and perfectly legal consumer electronics for me to do a living! . the company that does the service for me , (*custom agent). cant make the trip back with plants , because i dont have the permits to do so. please dont take it wrong, but you are too quick to judge people you dont even know. |
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I wish you would quit dogging this person. I understand that this all upsets you, Subrosa, but...wow.
Honestly, there is no way, I believe, to keep out disease. We can try but if you are moving plants and not analyzing the tissue under an electron microscope of each and every plant, you are moving disease. I wish that wasn't the case but it is. As for insects, you miss a few eggs and...Citrus Greening. I hate it but that is the way it is. You either enjoy your orchids that come from other countries and try not to think too hard about it or you decide to only buy orchids that Americans have flasked and raised. I follow what is happening with the chocolate, coffee, banana and citrus industries and you realize that no matter how hard a country tries to protect their agriculture, if you are importing or moving plants...the diseases will spread...just as it did for the elms and chestnuts. I have a chestnut tree that is mostly American Chestnut. The 'mother tree' died of the Chestnut Blight and mine is fighting it. I love that tree but what can I do? So, I understand that you wish to protect our agriculture and that in other countries but the absolute best way is to stop moving plants from one area to another altogether and, seriously, that is not going to happen. So, please, enough! Leave this poor person alone! |
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Points have been made, and opinions expressed.
OB cannot condone improper plant importation. It is understandable that some may not be aware of the requirements. Thread is being locked. OP has registered his dissatisfaction with the plant received from this particular vendor. Members have had worthwhile discussion regarding the requirements for plant importation, but further discussion on that should not be in this thread. *** ETA *** I want to clarify that my statement regarding OB's stance on unlawful importation was meant generally; I did not mean to imply that the OP had done so (I don't know the particulars of the situation, so cannot say). One last comment about plant importation - it is imperative to do the research as to what may be required by your country, and comply with those regulations. |
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