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Colmanara Orchid in flower, similar looking to Wildcat 'Bobcat'
The true identity of my Colmanara orchid is unclear. It was sold under the name Cambria 'Bobcat' which, as Cambria is a generic name for Oncidium intergenerics, and as some places sell with only the cultivar name and missing out the hybrid name, could have meant it was Wildcat 'Bobcat'... except the look while very close is not quite right.
It's close enough that several times I've seen a picture of Wildcat 'Bobcat' or seen it at a show and thought "that is what I've got" then when I compare pictures of mine to the other pictures I realise it isn't. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_o4OXVkcS2VU/TM...%20%282%29.JPG Both have the same size and same shape dark red flowers, with yellow highlights. Both have a yellow tinting to the back of the flowers (almost like a yellow pigment is overlayed on the red). However mine has faint yellow striping on the flowers, where Wildcat 'Bobcat' has yellow edging to the top petals and sepals. http://lh3.ggpht.com/_o4OXVkcS2VU/TM...%20%281%29.JPG Mine is closer looking to Wildcat 'Bobcat' than something like Wildcat 'Ocelot', which makes me think it could be the same hybrid... but at the very least it must have very similar parentage. The sweep of flowers is quite tall, even this picture only captures half of it. http://lh4.ggpht.com/_o4OXVkcS2VU/TM...20%2818%29.JPG Anyway... the plant it's self has problems. Three attempts at new growth were eaten off, and now it does not seem inclined to try again. I wonder if there are no more eyes left to grow. I was therefore very pleased when a new spike started in early August... at least I get to enjoy some more flowers even if it never grows further. It opened over a month ago, and is still in full flower... which gave me the opportunity to get around to taking pictures. http://lh5.ggpht.com/_o4OXVkcS2VU/TM...20%2826%29.JPG http://lh5.ggpht.com/_o4OXVkcS2VU/TM...20%2829%29.JPG http://lh3.ggpht.com/_o4OXVkcS2VU/TM...20%2834%29.JPG |
That's a pretty impressive spray Rosie! Is that just one spike? What has been eating it?
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Thanks Nicky. Yes just one spike but with masses of side shoots.
I found a large earwig in the medium when I repotted and suspect that to be the culprit. That was before I put any of these outside/in the greenhouse over the summer so I don't believe it was the slugs. It's not tried any new shoots all summer, which is why I think it may not have any more eyes :( |
It's fantastic!! What a huge bushy spike. I wouldn't entirely give up on it ever putting out new growths. The plant will want to reproduce, which means new growths. Somehow, somewhere (maybe on an older bulb) it will find another eye to nudge awake.
It's so confusing with the names! At least yours had some sort of name on the tag, the ones here usually say 'cambria', 'cattleya' or just 'orchid'. Although there is one grower (cameleon orchids) which has all the names (except for my Brassia! :() on their website. |
Thanks Camille,
It really does look fantastic. Difficult to get pictures that show off just how good it looks. Hopefully you are right that it will manage to find an eye somewhere. I won't give up on it until it's dead... even if it doesn't grow it may flower again, as this spike came off a p-bulb that had already had a spike an both sides, this spike came from between different leaves than the previous ones... so you never know, it's worth keeping just in case it does that again. I've used the Cameleon Orchids website before to ID plants that had their tags in the pot. Two of my Den Phal types came from them and I managed to get an ID for them. Mostly they just say Orchidee on ones here, you are lucky if you get as much detail as 'Cattleya' or 'Cambria'. Phals are generally labeld as such, usually '1 spike Phal' or '2 spike Phal' as the number of spikes is their main categorisation. |
It did! It found an eye to start growing again.
It seems to be growing from the side of one of the half eaten growth attempts from about 18 months ago. I'm so excited :cheer: |
Some of the large European orchid wholesalers have adopted the term "Cambria orchid" to mean any Odont/Onc intergeneric hybrid. This is due to the long term popularity of Vuyl Cambria 'Plush'. The growers figure that everyone knows what a "Cambria" type is by now. In the US there seems to be a movement to patent the clones giving only the clonal name without the Grex... Vuyl 'Plush' in the example above, leaving out the cross name. Personally I don't like either trend. I want to know the Genus, the Grex (cross name), and the Clone name, so I can research the ancestry and understand the plant better.
Okay, this is me gettin down off my soapbox. :twocents: BTW, yes I'm pretty sure that is a Colm Wildcat 'Bobcat' and a very nice job of blooming it. Good to hear it has plans to continue. Yeah :biggrin: |
Yay!! :biggrin: I'm glad the plant managed to get another growth going. Hopefully it'll give you another huge spike! :)
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The new growth is progressing pretty fast at the momment :biggrin:
I've heard of a trend to use only clone names. It happens in Pleione a lot apparently and someone was able to give me the grex of one of those I had with only the clone name. I do think it looks very close to Wildcat 'Bobcat' but I don't know if the differences to pictures I've seen of that really matter or not (yellow stripes rather than yelow outline on the petals). Anyway, I'm thrilled it's growing again (I can see lots of root growth as well) :biggrin: |
This is two year old now, but I followed it after reading Ryan's thread of his yellow widlcat.
Yours is so impressive! I do think it is a bobcat although most bobcat I've seen had more of reddish brownish lip. The subtle yellow area on the petals and sepals are present on some clones and not on others I've noticed. By the way, how is this plant doing now? Still giving you wonderful spray of flowers?? That one picture showing the entire spike is impressive!!!! :) |
Nice Oncostele (hint hint ;) Wildcat 'Redcat' now be cautious with the clone name, I'm not sure the different clone lines are that "fixed"… ;)
That poor earwing had nothing to do with it, as it eats aphids and the like. there's more chances it's been a snail/slug or any kind of herbivorous thingy that came and ate the new growths. If you can show the bits remaining we may have hints of the offender. For slugs you can try a beer trap to catch and down them. If it doesn't work, it's not of the snail/slug sort. |
Yeah, I'm not keeping up with names changes. lol
By the way, earwigs can damage plants by eating them. They eat lots of stuff, insect, dead&live plant parts... |
Very beautiful, Rosie. Is it still with us?
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The plant is doing well, good growth each year and flowering reliably in the winter each year, with big sprays of flowers. This year's spikes are a little late, but the largest is looking like it will develop into a good display :) ---------- Post added at 03:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:23 PM ---------- As this thread has been bumped up I'll try and update it with the pictures from last year. Having trouble getting into my flickr account just now though :duh: |
I noticed in OrchidWiz several photos of Colm, Wildcat 'Bobcat' that have as much or more barring on the petals as yours. They look pretty much the same as your photo. So that is likely what your Cambria tag meant. This sure is a variable hybrid with all the different clones! My Wildcat 'Redcat' is in spike now as well.
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I'm glad to hear the great news and congrats on your two even larger spikes!!!
That must be exciting! :) Yeah, photos will be nice. Have you posted them yet? lol So this blooms once a year for you? I thought wildcats bloom more frequently. Well, with the quality of blooms you have, once a year is also great I think. How do the leaves look by the way? |
Here are the pictures from Jan 2012, which show the colour much more accurately than the pictures above. I keep watching these current spikes progressing... they are slow :tapfoot: but keep growing :)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8089/8...6a2e992e92.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8...871c419f6d.jpg |
Good! thanks for posting!
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Beautiful pics! look forward to seeing more of your new spikes when they bloom
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The colour is an interesting thing on this orchid. The red shown in my pictures from 2012 can only be seen to the naked eye in bright natural light. It can be picked up by a camera in slightly lower light, but still needs enough natural light to be seen.
Here are some pictures from a few days ago. The one with the white background shows a pretty accurate colour compared to what I see just now on the plant. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8104/8...6a625b4fbb.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8378/8...c269a050f1.jpg ---------- Post added at 01:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:38 PM ---------- A couple more pictures of the current spikes http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8...8e34dc6233.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8382/8...310c5a532f.jpg |
Fabulous!
Last year I was given an out of bloom no ID Onc alliance, it's just started to bloom now - I think it's one if these. Don't have a fully opened bloom yet ... |
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