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Lil Duck 12-20-2022 01:24 PM

Cattleya (Sophronitis) brevipedunculata questions
 
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Hello all
I recently bought a C. brevipedunculata from Brookside Orchids. After consulting Roberta who also grows this plant, I planned on first growing it inside for a little bit and then moving it outside on a warm winter night in the 50s. I am now questioning this plan after I received this plant as it has three new growths, a maturing pseudobulb, and what appears to be a flower sheath. As this plant is in active growth I am wondering if it is still appropriate to move this plant outside where it would experience temperatures that it would only really experience during its resting/ flowering season. If anyone with orchid wiz could share the temperature data for this particular species that would be greatly appreciated.

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Roberta 12-20-2022 07:27 PM

I would definitely ask the vendor under what temperature conditions it has been growing. That's a gorgeous plant! This time of year, even though it can grow cool, that's with being acclimated. When I acquire a plant in winter, I usually pamper it indoors until nights warm up even if it is capable of growing cool, if it has been in a sheltered controlled environment.

Lil Duck 12-20-2022 08:13 PM

The vendor had been growing it with 60 degree nights but that was because they were miss ided as dendrobiums, they recommended growing it in the low 50s. What I was really asking about is if I should still put It outside in the cold when it is in active growth.

Roberta 12-20-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil Duck (Post 996878)
The vendor had been growing it with 60 degree nights but that was because they were miss ided as dendrobiums, they recommended growing it in the low 50s. What I was really asking about is if I should still put It outside in the cold when it is in active growth.

I'd say "No". Next winter, after it has been growing outside through the full range of seasons, it will be fine. But I would not want to shock it by putting out it now after it has been growing that warm. In Brazil it's summer - it may have its seasons already adjusted or maybe not. Growing it relatively warm won't hurt it
(it seems to be growing very well), shocking it with a sudden change could be harmful. IF it were my plant I would not take the chance.

Lil Duck 12-20-2022 11:16 PM

I have another question, when do C. brevipedunculata form new roots, before or after the pseudobulb matures. I would like to repot soon as one direction of growth is up against the side of the pot, another is about 5 mm from the side and the last two are about 1 cm from the side. Quite a full little plant indeed :biggrin:

Roberta 12-20-2022 11:22 PM

Maybe someone here knows... I don't have a clue. Best I could suggest is to just observe. A note, like the rest of what used to be Sophronitis, the buds emerge from the new growth just as the leaves open (no noticeable sheath) so lots going on at the same time.

PuiPuiMolcar 12-21-2022 01:01 AM

Heya, I have C. brevipedunculata I bought from Andy's for about half a year now. He grows his orchid outdoor under shade, this one (pict related) was in one of the outdoor area, where night time temp drow to 40s around this season. My area have the similar temp but I still wouldn't put mine outside simply because it would dry way too fast for me to keep up. I kept mine around 60-75 indoor with light wind from the mini fans and it is doing fine for me.
As for growth, I'm not too sure because I purchased it when it was in bloom which was in late winter, and the bulb did grew a bit bigger afterward. The mount I got along with it was just full of moss so it was hard for me to noticed any root activity. One of the clerk from Andy and the internet says the brevipedunculata are among the easiest of the sophronitis
https://imgur.com/JyIkJHb.jpg

RJSquirrel 12-21-2022 06:52 AM

good luck. :waving

Lil Duck 12-21-2022 11:11 AM

I just re potted it into a 3 inch pot from a 2.5 inch pot. it seems like this was a seedling pot because the bark was small seedling sized bark, they also put a few packing peanuts in the center to dry out faster. in the new pot I put a mixture of medium and large sized bark along with another packing peanut. It appears that C. brevipedunculata grows new roots before the pseudobulb matures, although the new roots appear to be growing from between the pseudobulbs. Oh well :dumb:

Akhenaten 12-24-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lil Duck (Post 996907)
It appears that C. brevipedunculata grows new roots before the pseudobulb matures, although the new roots appear to be growing from between the pseudobulbs. Oh well :dumb:

Almost all of my sophronitis grow roots after the bulb has matured. A new sprout → then it blooms → then the roots, then a new sprout. This is the Way

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Originally Posted by PuiPuiMolcar (Post 996895)
Heya, I have C. brevipedunculata I bought from Andy's for about half a year now.

The shape of the flower is fantastically flawless :)

Lil Duck 02-07-2023 09:22 PM

I have roots on the brevi!! roots on the brevi!! Akhenaten was right, the red hots grow their roots after the pseudobulb matures. Now only one more thing I want to see growing, anyone have some spare buds they could lend me??

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2a5b861d_b.jpg

Roberta 02-07-2023 09:40 PM

I had a bloom in January one year and November another year. They sneak up on you... the buds hide in the developing leaf, emerging as the leaf opens. Gorgeous roots!

Lil Duck 02-07-2023 09:56 PM

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They sneak up on you... the buds hide in the developing leaf, emerging as the leaf opens. Gorgeous roots!

Yup, unfortunately all three new growths were empty, oh well there's always next time.

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PuiPuiMolcar 02-07-2023 10:03 PM

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Root gang reporting in too. :D though I can hardly see anything down there cause moss lol.

Roberta 02-07-2023 10:09 PM

Healthy plant, healthy roots... flowers are in the future, in due course.

Akhenaten 02-08-2023 08:51 AM

Dear Lil Duck, congratulations on your gorgeous roots. Bravo! Our dear wise Roberta is infinitely right: "Healthy plant, healthy roots... flowers are in the future, in due course." Absolutely agree. I will add just one. Sophronitis needs a lot of bright light to bloom, otherwise it will not bloom. And when you give a lot of bright light, then the second generation of new bulbs will bloom, the grandchildren of today's bulbs. May I ask you? Please tell us how often do you water your sophronitis and what substrate is it planted in?

Lil Duck 02-08-2023 10:02 AM

Hi I water my Brevi whenever it's fully dry, that's around 5 to 7 days. I grow it in a coarse bark media, with pieces around 12 mm (1/2 inch). Cattleya brevipedunculata grows more inland than other former Sophronitis so should be kept dryer or mounted.

Akhenaten 02-10-2023 07:56 AM

Thank you so much ;)


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