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09-19-2011, 12:11 AM
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That's bad advice, Blazing August. Under ALL circumstances, a CITES certificate is needed. There are no exceptions.
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Incorrect! Follow this link --> Canadian Food Inspection Agency - AUTOMATED IMPORT REFERENCE SYSTEM enter orchids as the commodity, follow the instructions by entering the country, and then state it is coming from, then your planned use (household and not for resale), etc, and you find out that you can indeed take up to fifty orchids with you while driving from the US into Canada, without any documentations, depending what state they are coming from, of course. So according to this, I could get up to fifty 'chids from Texas, and as long as I am with them while crossing the border, and I do not plan to resell them, I can bring them across with no certificates. |
09-19-2011, 12:20 AM
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I have ordered twice at Cloud's Orchids online and it was delivered to me on time and I even got a bonus plant. professionally packed and I was amazed it came to me in 3 days! I have a delivery of Epidendrum radicans and Habenaria myriotricha due to be delivered on Sept 26th...the last order to leave their store is Oct 3 and then its wait til spring or warmer months...certificates are to be bought for $25 for the state of Hawaii and Arizona...the rest of the states dont need the certificate.
Now I dont know if theres any US growers who can send to Canada...try to buy from Big Oaks from WI or from WhiteOaksorchids from CA they have delivered orchids to me by mail and I bought them all online.
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09-19-2011, 12:23 AM
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I have ordered twice at Cloud's Orchids online and it was delivered to me on time and I even got a bonus plant. professionally packed and I was amazed it came to me in 3 days! I have a delivery of Epidendrum radicans and Habenaria myriotricha due to be delivered on Sept 26th...the last order to leave their store is Oct 3 and then its wait til spring or warmer months...certificates are to be bought for $25 for the state of Hawaii and Arizona...the rest of the states dont need the certificate.
Now I dont know if theres any US growers who can send to Canada...try to buy from Big Oaks from WI or from WhiteOaksorchids from CA they have delivered orchids to me by mail and I bought them all online.
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Anyone ordering orchids into Canada from any company in the U.S. needs CITES and I believe phyto-sanitary papers. Unfortunate, but true. |
09-19-2011, 12:31 AM
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Thats unfair....because I can buy from Canada delivered to me in NY in USA without any hassles...now why wont Canada honor that same reciprocity? Canadians must be able to buy from any growers in NY USA...without any hassles
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09-19-2011, 12:37 AM
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Absolutely not! It just doesn't work that way! U.S. has more relaxed rules about what goes across the border into their country (at least plant wise). Canada is very picky and they have also banned many pesticides and fungicides that Americans can still buy.
Even tho we live on the same continent and speak English as a main language (not meaning to offend french or any others) we are still two seperate countries and have totally different laws when it comes to some things.  |
09-19-2011, 06:43 AM
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I remember Canadians are just un-armed Americans
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O.C.D. "Orchid Collecting Dysfunction"
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09-19-2011, 09:16 AM
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all imports of orchids into the US require CITES and Phytosanitary certificates, and an import permit, even if they're coming from Canada.
Cloud's Orchids includes the required certificates with their orders, and US customs often overlooks a missing import permit for small orders.
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09-19-2011, 02:00 PM
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Thanks for the response folks, disappointing news that it was. *sigh* Perhaps one day US and Canada will be counted as 'one country' with regards to such things as the European countries are ... though I won't hold my breath.
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09-19-2011, 02:08 PM
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You can bring up to 50 orchids as personal luggage without a Phyto or a permit BUT you will need a CITES. Orchids are all on CITES and cannot cross international borders without documentation. The exception is the European Union.
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09-19-2011, 02:42 PM
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Thanks for the response folks, disappointing news that it was. *sigh* Perhaps one day US and Canada will be counted as 'one country' with regards to such things as the European countries are ... though I won't hold my breath.
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I thought 'Free Trade' would have had some bearing on some of these things, but I never seem to gain much from it. |
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