orchid pronounciation

[claypot]

I note from the initial post that Shadeflower is one of the growing brigade in the UK who begin every statement with "so" - just a noise word adding nothing to the context. Youngsters in UK also seem to punctuate everything with "like" between every few words for no particular reason, and any sight of the correct grammar of adverbs following verbs, not preceeding the verb, has disappeared completely - these days for instance one quietly walks instead of walking quietly.

[Roberta]

Another source on the pronunciation of "Gomesa" from the AOS website. Gomesa
Article is by Francisco Miranda... I suspect that he knows how the name should be pronounced.

[rbarata]

Originally Posted by estación seca

Hoping rbarata or JungleJo comment, but I believe an initial G in Portuguese is pronounced like an initial H in English, not the hard G of Spanish.

The G in Portuguese is spelled as in Spanish and Brazillian Portuguese.
See the links below page for examples of the surname "Gomes" in the three pronunciations:

Brazilian
Spanish

For European Portuguese, see this video at 3:51 mark:

How to pronounce Portuguese family names + naming conventions - YouTube

For the Gomesa, for Portuguese (Brazilian and European) the "s" is spelled like a "z" (like some english words such as "taser".
See this video at 1:01 mark

ORQUIDEA GOMESA SEMELHANTE DIFERENCA APRENDA A CULTIVAR - YouTube

[Ray]

...as long as WE ALL know what we're referring to, I imagine we'll survive!

Roberta, et al - thanks for the Gomes correction. That'll teach me to list to the "experts".

[Shadeflower]

Originally Posted by claypot

I note from the initial post that Shadeflower is one of the growing brigade in the UK who begin every statement with "so" - just a noise word adding nothing to the context.

I could argue hence, and, I digress and honestly are all similar noise words then.

Usually such annoyances arise when one becomes annoyed with the person, not what they are saying.

It happens to me too. I mean (oops another one!) a lot of youtubers have picked up the phrase
"So with that said"

At least mine is just two letters, not like I I am saying so folks with that said, give me a high five and lets move on to what I really want to say but geez, talk about throwing a claypot at someone.

The ironic thing is I was debating to add the word or not, I deleted it, it looked too robotic, so I added it back again and then get called out on it lol.

[rbarata]

The pronunciation varies a lot even in country, from region to region...it all depends on the accent.
Brazilian and Portuguese are the same language but are different in many aspects.

Another source on the pronunciation of "Gomesa" from the AOS website. Gomesa
Article is by Francisco Miranda... I suspect that he knows how the name should be pronounced.

It depends from which region he is from Brazil...different accents make it completely different.

[Ray]

Originally Posted by rbarata

The pronunciation varies a lot even in country, from region to region...it all depends on the accent.
Brazilian and Portuguese are the same language but are different in many aspects.

It depends from which region he is from Brazil...different accents make it completely different.

This is likely way “off base”, but I characterize Brazilian Portuguese as “Spanish with a southern drawl”. There is a similar difference between Mandarin and Cantonese.

[Grautier]

That would be like saying that american english is like a sort of pidgin english dialect?

You know any brazilian writer? You know the wealth of brazilian phonetics?

You know how the castilian the conquerors brought to the Americas exploded into a spanish language per country, perfectly distinguishable, with a common base, so that Neruda can be understood by Menchú as can she been understood by García Lorca?

(There are works in native languages as well; as I'm not able to read them, I can't tell about them.)

Splitting and lumping is not unique to orchid nomenclature.

[Dusty Ol' Man]

This is all very interesting, and I have about to add.
If Latin uses the Hepburn system of pronunciation, Then a=ah; e=ay; i=ee; o=oh; and u=oo. This lends itself well to pronouncing these quasi-Latin plant names, so this is what I use----to a point. The double i occurance I pronounce ee-ahee. I heard it done that way so I copied it. It works for me.
All this to say, since this is a text only forum, does it really matter in the first place?

[Roberta]

Originally Posted by rbarata

The pronunciation varies a lot even in country, from region to region...it all depends on the accent.
Brazilian and Portuguese are the same language but are different in many aspects.



It depends from which region he is from Brazil...different accents make it completely different.

Totally true... the point of my comment was simply that the genus "Gomesa" has 3 syllables, not 2.