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Old 12-17-2014, 12:26 AM
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This is a picture of Bulb. lobbii (Malacca form) from the Andy's Orchids website. Looks really close to me though yours has darker pigmentation.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:16 AM
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This is a picture of Bulb. lobbii (Malacca form) from the Andy's Orchids website. Looks really close to me though yours has darker pigmentation.
Oh, Harris.
You had to do that to me didn't you.


Here I was so sure.
Now, I'm not so sure.

IOSPE:
Bulbo. lobbii:
IOSPE PHOTOS

Bulbo. dearei:
IOSPE PHOTOS


Google image search:
Bulbo. lobbii:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...phyllum+lobbii

Bulbo dearei:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...yllum%20dearei

Now I'm not so sure.
Both of these"species" have such a great color, pattern and shape variation that it could be either one of them.

I put species in " " because I'm tempted to argue against their being different species without taking their genomes apart to compare them. If it hasn't been done already.

Help! I don't want it to be a NoID.
Even worse would for it to be mislabeled.

I do have a mounted and labeled B. dearei and a B. lobbii 'Kathy's Gold'.
Because it doesn't look anything like a Kathy's Gold and looks something like a dearei, I ass-u-me-d it was a dearei.
I may have to wait until they both finally bloom for me.

I hope this is not unresolvable.

EDIT:
The great variation in the photos leads me to also suspect there is a lot of mislabeling of Bulbo. species out there.
I have run into it before in the purchase of other species.
Even the best most knowledgeable and reliable can get them wrong.

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Old 12-17-2014, 03:37 AM
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It is a good medium for use on the rafts also.
I've never seen rafts before. They look interesting, I couldn't use them here though.
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Old 12-17-2014, 03:05 PM
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I never thought I'd be saying this, but Bulbos are fascinating!

I went out to take another look at it this morning.
The flower is morphing its shape.




the lip has grown and extended out further so that I can see how it attaches to the rest of the flower now.
The lower sepals have raised up and and are forming more of a "shelf".
The petals have reflexed back more, and the dorsal sepal is more pointed.

I'm beginning to think lobbii may be a better fit.
I wonder what it'll look like tomorrow?
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:12 PM
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Good news is that whatever you have it's beautiful!
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:21 PM
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Great news, congrats and enjoy! I think that bulbos are very special orchids!
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:34 AM
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It looks a bit different than my dearei

Mine look like this:




I still think yours is a lobbii, a great looking one at that

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Old 12-18-2014, 09:08 AM
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I bought a new book called "Orchids of Indonesia" by Frankie Handoyo, and I just received it this morning.

Haven't had time to open it until now and look what I found!



Is this your mystery Bulbos?
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:40 PM
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Nice plant and cool story! I agree with Suri that it's probably not dearei, the few I've seen always have that very folded-over shape like shown (beautiful dearei, BTW!). lobbii seems most likely, but the auriculatum Suri posted could be another possibility. The 'lobbii complex' is more than a little confusing right now since many of the somewhat distinct types like sumatranum, claptonense, and polystictum are currently lumped into lobbii (despite geographic distinctions, different fragrances, etc. that would suggest some degree of reproductive isolation), while other about-as-distinct taxa like auriculatum are still legit species in their own right. Hopefully someone will take on the molecular study of this group soon but I'm not holding my breath...
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:45 PM
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I bought a new book called "Orchids of Indonesia" by Frankie Handoyo, and I just received it this morning.

Haven't had time to open it until now and look what I found!
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Is this your mystery Bulbos?
Oh, Great.
A fourth likely possibility.
I'm beginning to think I'll never be able to hang a name on it with any certainty.

Going to the IOSPE and another google image search shows a great variation for this one also.

Your B. dearei is fantastic.

I'm thinking that I may need to go back to the fellow that was liquidating his greenhouses and ask him what it is.
If anyone knows, he will.

EDIT:
Thanks gnathaniel.
Your explanation makes it understandable why there seems to be so much confusion concerning the "lobbii" type of Bulbos.

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