Tony gave me that oncidium NOID that is mentioned in this thread. he sent it to me bare root, and it was a little beat up when it arrived (probably because it's neither a paph or a brassia, right Tony? ). but I promptly potted it up in primeagra in a clay pot (not s/h, just primeagra conventional culture) and it's been perking right up. it had 3 or 4 young growths that are nearing maturity, and just put out 1 brand new growth earlier this week.