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Old 05-07-2009, 04:33 PM
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Very true. What wattage are these T5s
I believe any T5 that is 54 watts is 'HO' and anything else is not...I think this entire HO/NO nomenclature is confusing and pointless.
I don't think it is confusing at all and certainly not pointless. Now I am very used to the terminology since I also keep reef aquariums. In reef keeping there was not just standard and HO but also VHO (very high output.)

Their power to grow higher light corals increased with each "nomenclature." There doesn't appear to be a "VHO" bulb in T5s yet but the use of standard/NO and HO is very helpful and will reflect the light output of the bulb.

I would not have paid for HO T5s if I could get the same lumens and FCs under a standard T5.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:09 PM
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I don't think it is confusing at all and certainly not pointless. Now I am very used to the terminology since I also keep reef aquariums. In reef keeping there was not just standard and HO but also VHO (very high output.)

Their power to grow higher light corals increased with each "nomenclature." There doesn't appear to be a "VHO" bulb in T5s yet but the use of standard/NO and HO is very helpful and will reflect the light output of the bulb.

I would not have paid for HO T5s if I could get the same lumens and FCs under a standard T5.
Well clearly I'm just an easily confused individual than, eh I can kind of see the point now that I think about it - it's probably important that people know the type of ballast before trying to shove bulbs in. It just makes more sense to me and seems more informative to me to say a 54W T5 ballast vs a 24W T5 ballast, rather than saying "HO vs NO" But to each his own - I don't keep aquariums or coral so I suppose I haven't had the chance to become 'very used' to the terminology.

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Old 05-07-2009, 09:05 PM
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Whoops, I have HO t5's, not regular t5's. My bad. They run hot but are BRIGHT! So bright I pulled the minicatts out until I could lower the shelf significantly. They were not cheap, but I feel they were worth it.
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Old 05-08-2009, 09:49 AM
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Whoops, I have HO t5's, not regular t5's. My bad. They run hot but are BRIGHT! So bright I pulled the minicatts out until I could lower the shelf significantly. They were not cheap, but I feel they were worth it.
Yes Sheila, I just received my system yesterday to replace my Power Compact light system and the new system is VERY VERY bright!!! Good grief! lol

Today the orchids are going without light until I can build a stand to raise the lights up higher (don't want to put holes in the cabinet bottom above the orchidarium.)

The PC lights just sat on top of the orchidarium and I thought I could do that and just raise them an inch to cool. No way! While the ballast is completely cool and silent the bulbs get fairly hot plus I am afraid the new intensity will burn my low light orchids at the bottom of the orchidarim which is about 18" from the top.

UGH, more work but I am glad I got it. I went with the 4ft New Wave system since they are fabricated and made in the USA and have a 2 year warranty.

Yep, there are not cheap but mine will easily pay for its self since it uses a little less electricity than the PCs and the bulbs cost less than half!!

Calvin, stating it like that is just as good as saying HO or NO. Both ways help folks know what the other person has or is referring to.
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:21 PM
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Thanks everyone for the discussion. I have learned something I knew nothing about. I just got into Neos. and was looking for HO T5's but the cost is more than I expected. I think I will have to re-think a little while longer before the investment.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:57 PM
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I installed HO T5 4 bulb 4 foot fixtures in my garden last october. The results have been absolutely amazing!! Plus, the best part, is that my power bill went down!
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:44 PM
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Thanks everyone for the discussion. I have learned something I knew nothing about. I just got into Neos. and was looking for HO T5's but the cost is more than I expected. I think I will have to re-think a little while longer before the investment.
Are "neos" Neofinetia varieties? If so, they can be very expensive (and oh so worth it) so you should be able to afford an HO T5 unit.

I got the New Wave HO T5 fixture 4ft w/4 bulbs (included), made in the USA (not China), with a high quality German reflector and a 2 year warranty for $190.

It is a VERY nice system. I don't have the link for where I got it but if you say your interested, I will dig it out for ya.
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:52 PM
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Yes, I was talking about Neofinetia Falcata's. If you don't mind digging it up I would appreciate it. Thanks.

Don
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Old 05-13-2009, 07:59 PM
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Yes, I love the Neofinetia varieties. Also, the Sederia japonicas that come it SO many dwarf and variegated varieties.

Anyway, here is the link to the company and the page with the light I got:

T5 New Wave 4FT Fluorescent Grow Lights - Plantlighting Hydroponics & Grow Lights

They have a cheaper brand but I have not heard as much good stuff about it and I believe they are Chinese knock offs.
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