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Old 08-05-2010, 03:35 PM
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does anyone know the parentage of dendrobium hamana smile? thanks. i know that its kingianumxberry. but what is berry. and mor eimportantly, should it be cared for like a kingi?
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:46 PM
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care ofthis plant should be depending on the parents, and not only kingianum...

for all the species involved you can check in the RHS website The International Orchid Register | Royal Horticultural Society this is a great tool!
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Old 08-05-2010, 03:53 PM
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Den. Hamana Smile parents are Den. Hohoemi x Den. speciosum;
Hohoemi = Den. Berry x Den. kingianum
Berry = Den. kingianum x Den. Mini Pearl

speciosum is recognized for huge pseudobulbs (canes) and inflorescences that bear 75 - 100 flowers. kingianum - although plants can become massive - are a bit more delicate. I grow my Hamana Smile on the cool side of a cool to intermediate growing are. Plant likes bright sun, stays outdoors in NH until the first frost. My plant hasn't bloomed in awhile but then again, I haven't killed it either. Suggest reading Wil Neptune's culture tips
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Old 08-05-2010, 04:03 PM
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i saw will neptunes culture tips on den kingi, but i didnt see anything else. i will google ot.

thanks kavanaru, i was looking for that tool, but i couldnt find it!

mine is a keiki, but pretty big for a keiki
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Old 08-05-2010, 05:33 PM
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I sent you the keiki still attached to the old cane. So it is large because the old cane is still providing some energy. It bloomed for me. Not too profusely, but it did. Flowers look like D. kingianum but a little more white. My Hamana Smile is growing 2 new canes. I would say it looks close to a kingianum but larger about 9/10 inches tall. It produces keikis often. I leave it in full sun [but i live in Brooklyn so other buildings around slightly limit the sun. Leaves can turn a bit purple and some spot but never looks to get sun burn like other plants.

Den speciosum culture is similar to D kingianum
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it seems to me that is mostly D kingianum parentage...
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Both Den. kingianum and speciosum are members of the dendorcoryne section that is distributed in Australia and adsjacent Pacific Islands.. Plants have pseudobulbs up to a meter in length. Flowering typically occurs on racemes, sprays.

kingianum is one of best known species in the group and is relatively easy to grow. speciosum is found in a wide variety of habitats so it's fairly easy to meet its cultural requirements.

Both these species can tolerate cool to intermediate conditions.

Although the culture for Hamana Smile is not specifically mentioned in his work, you would do well to follow Neptune's suggestions for growing this predominantly kingianum hybrid.

I'll enjoy seeing anyone's photos of Hamana Smile. It's been so long since mine flowered, I've forgotten what it looks like.
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Old 08-05-2010, 10:42 PM
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thanks! i will keep it with my kingi.

stefpix- i thought it was decidous or something
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No, not deciduous. Not many leaves though. A keiki bloomed on the plant. It can produce lots of keikis
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okay, im glad i figured that out!
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Old 08-05-2010, 11:38 PM
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I am kind of puzzled why they would create some hybrid with all that back and forth crossing...

I am actually looking for a small pink/purple D kingianum. Was one of my 1st orchids and I killed it.
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