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greenbean 12-10-2011 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCorchidman (Post 455985)
Amaryllis can stay evergreen. Commercial growers force them to have bloom for holiday seasons. It is not necessary otherwise.
The most important part of it all is to grow the bulb as large as possible to get nice bloom each year.

Well, at least your parents took good care of your other plants. :)
I am not a fan of Parvi's. It took me a while before I started to get an interst in any paph. They just looked really weird to me. Too exotic maybe.
Now I have a bunch! I even have ones posted here, the ones with dots on the flower, which I really really hated before. now I'm opening up more to new things.
Those unproportionally large pouch might be why I have hard time developing interest in Parvis.

Different people have different interest I guess.
how do they grow for you by the way?

Well maybe that's my problem! Every reference I could find said that Amaryllis had to go dormant in fall! I don't care if they bloom for the holidays, just so long as they bloom! Maybe I will try another one of these days. Thanks for that little tidbit!

I agree that Parvis tend to have oversized pouches. I don't really like the really off-balance ones like fanaticum or micranthum. They look too much like toilets. :lol: I do like malipoense, because it's usually fragrant, which is rare among Paphs.

They are growing on me, slowly. So far I prefer the Parvi hybrids, because they tend to have more proportional pouches. I have 2 so far, Fumi's Delight and Lynleigh Koopowitz. They don't seem anymore difficult than Maudiae types and are growing quite well for me, both at home with my parents (Lynleigh) and in the horribly dry environment of Pullman, WA (Fumi's Delight).

NYCorchidman 12-10-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Melody (Post 456197)
I love your group shot...very stunning. And I'm also totally jealous that your Amaryllis are doing so well. I have 2 Amaryllis I got last year in Nov. and they never bloomed...just grew lots of leaves....so I gave them lots of love over the summer and then gave them a winter treatment to force them to bloom for Christmas this year, and what do I have: more leaves!!! arg! makes me want to just chuck them out the window.

Anyways, I think paphs look so much better in groups. :biggrin:

Thank you! glad you like the pic.

Amaryllis should bloom at least once per year. Sometimes, twice, but that is not common.
If yours do not bloom, I think it is either diseased (well, even diseased ones usually bloom as well! lol ) or growth was not good enough to produce flowers. If bulbs fail to reach certain size, they will never ever flower, only leaves in attemp to feed its bulb.
Check the growing condition, or just toss it and get a largest possible bulb, so you will see flowers. Good sellers indicate on their website how big the bulbs they sell are. Try to get nothing smaller than 32cm.
Remember full sun at least a few hours a day is the most important.

I agree with you. Paphs look so much better in group.
I like the look and how long they last, but they always produce single lonely flower. well, at least the ones I have except for Honey which made three flowers, but not that longlasting.
Anyways, I think I will keep them in group like this until each one gets fairly large, at which point, I will have to give some away to make space.
I need a bigger house! :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by greenbean (Post 456209)
Well maybe that's my problem! Every reference I could find said that Amaryllis had to go dormant in fall! I don't care if they bloom for the holidays, just so long as they bloom! Maybe I will try another one of these days. Thanks for that little tidbit!

I agree that Parvis tend to have oversized pouches. I don't really like the really off-balance ones like fanaticum or micranthum. They look too much like toilets. :lol: I do like malipoense, because it's usually fragrant, which is rare among Paphs.

They are growing on me, slowly. So far I prefer the Parvi hybrids, because they tend to have more proportional pouches. I have 2 so far, Fumi's Delight and Lynleigh Koopowitz. They don't seem anymore difficult than Maudiae types and are growing quite well for me, both at home with my parents (Lynleigh) and in the horribly dry environment of Pullman, WA (Fumi's Delight).

Yeah, the whole forcing thing is for commercial purpose because it has become a huge trend to have amaryllis around Christmas. Normally, they will bloom in the spring time. and sometimes, they bloom again in the summer or fall. That seem to depend on the variety and the growing condition (I believe temerature and how healthy they are).
Anyways, You can try and give them a "rest" in the fall when the weather gets much cooler. Just stop watering them. Then they may or may not respond by yellowing leaves. Then you keep them cool and dry for at least two months.
If they do not yellow, then I water them again and keep them evergreen. Either ways, they flower at least once a year.
Agains, getting lots of sun is the most important while they are growing leaves. and of course water well, otherwise the bulbs won't grow as much. After all, it's most made of water.
By the way, today at farmer's market, I found two more varieties. so happy with them. I wasn't planning to buy more Amaryllis anytime soon as I already have quite a few, but those varieties were already on my wish list and this guy had them both. How lucky!!! :)
Showmaster and Artic Nymph. Look them up on the internet. They are quite nice!

So back to paphs, :biggrin:
Do you have malipoense? I read the description of their scent as raspberry. I like the taste of raspberry but do not recall if they smell anything??

I do have two paphs that smell nice. One is Honey and it has a rose fragrance. The other one is a cross of In-Charm greenery and In-Charm white. I can't really describe the scent, but it is nonstop (emits fragrance both day and night), which I find is unusual for orchids.

I found one store here had a paph hybrid that has delentii in it. I thought the leaves were amazing! dark green with silver grey pattern and the backisde of the leaves were dark purple. It was a multi flowering type too. The store owner strongly recommended it to me as he had only one left, but it was still in bud, and it was quite small. Well, if I see it in bloom in the coming weeks, I might get it. It's supposed to be white/pink by the way.

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I just looked up the two paphs you have. I like the golden yellow color of Fumi's Delight.
I need more yellow in the house. The only thing yellow I have are oncidiums. Twinkle and Sweet Sugar.
Oh, I have one paph that's white/yellow and it's sending up two buds. I have started a thread on it. I think it has at least one more month to go before I see flowers.

I want yellow cattleya and phal. the ones that are yellow with red center. I want so many things. lol

WhiteRabbit 12-10-2011 10:46 PM

beautiful!

ah- Amaryllis growers here - I got some seedlings from someone a few years ago - anyone know how long it takes before they may be bloom size? (they were newly sprouted when I got them spring or summer '09)

NYCorchidman 12-11-2011 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteRabbit (Post 456439)
beautiful!

ah- Amaryllis growers here - I got some seedlings from someone a few years ago - anyone know how long it takes before they may be bloom size? (they were newly sprouted when I got them spring or summer '09)

We might as well start amaryllis thread under "absolutely unrelated" section. :biggrin:

Well, I've never tried growing amaryllis from a seed as I'm not a type who can wait for a long time to see uncertain flowers. I heard it can take 4 to 7 years. I believe you can accelerate the growth rate a bit by providing a warm and sunny condition all year round.
How many leaves does yours have now? and how big is the bulb? If it's a large flowered type, the bulb has to be at least the size of a small apple or a tennis ball before it produces flowers. So focus on giving them lots of sun and warmth and water all year around. I would say another two years or so. but one never knows.


What I do now is just buy lots of different varieties that I'm interested in. Then if the color and the shape turn out great and the bulbs are healthy, then I keep them. If not, I toss them after flowers are gone.

NYCorchidman 12-11-2011 02:06 AM

Some amaryllis pictures
 
I thought I might as well post some pictures of amaryllis. I only wish their flowers lasted as long as my orchids. :)

At least the white variety I have produce lots of stems, so that one stays in bloom for over one month.

From left to right, Aphrodite (my favorite), Bolero, Desire, Amalfi, Alfresco (two pics in a row), Amigo (photo doesn't do justice to the actual color)
I have lots more coming.

Enjoy!

greenbean 12-11-2011 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCorchidman (Post 456367)

So back to paphs, :biggrin:
Do you have malipoense? I read the description of their scent as raspberry. I like the taste of raspberry but do not recall if they smell anything??

I do have two paphs that smell nice. One is Honey and it has a rose fragrance. The other one is a cross of In-Charm greenery and In-Charm white. I can't really describe the scent, but it is nonstop (emits fragrance both day and night), which I find is unusual for orchids.

I found one store here had a paph hybrid that has delentii in it. I thought the leaves were amazing! dark green with silver grey pattern and the backisde of the leaves were dark purple. It was a multi flowering type too. The store owner strongly recommended it to me as he had only one left, but it was still in bud, and it was quite small. Well, if I see it in bloom in the coming weeks, I might get it. It's supposed to be white/pink by the way.

---------- Post added at 06:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:38 PM ----------

I just looked up the two paphs you have. I like the golden yellow color of Fumi's Delight.
I need more yellow in the house. The only thing yellow I have are oncidiums. Twinkle and Sweet Sugar.
Oh, I have one paph that's white/yellow and it's sending up two buds. I have started a thread on it. I think it has at least one more month to go before I see flowers.

I want yellow cattleya and phal. the ones that are yellow with red center. I want so many things. lol

I don't have malipoense yet, unfortunately. I think I will order it this spring. Lynleigh Koopowitz also is reported to have a faint raspberry scent and I'm hoping the one I have will.

I love the patterns on the leaves of Parvis. Fumi's Delight has glittering silver and green mottled leaves with purple undersides. Lynleigh Koopowitz has light green leaves with a dark green pattern that to me looks like a stylized rambling rose, also purple underneath. They aren't even in bloom and I'm captivated by them.

Check out this site. No foliage, but it shows how diverse Paph flowers are. Good section on Brachys and Parvis Complex Hybrid Info & Photos

NYCorchidman 12-11-2011 09:15 AM

Glittering silver sounds even better! :)

Thank you for sending me the link. I just took a tour and lots of nice flowers!

I like to have Dollgoldi and its pink version (probably not related, but looks similar except it is pink lol).
I remember they were quite pricy for me.
Maybe next year or so.


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