Thank you so much for this advice. I do wonder at the price as the vendor (who has great reviews here) is now offering both the St Swithin and the Deena Nicol for 140 including all shipping costs. When I asked if he had pictures of the flowers he said they are "standard plants with standard flowers" The last thing I want is a hideous freak of a flower! That comment did make me laugh as I thought about myself diligently working to get them to flower, the waiting, the excitement, the anticipation, only to find its a freak!