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07-13-2020, 01:14 AM
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So what you're telling me here is that I need to buy many more orchids, FOR SCIENCE! I'll let my husband know that's the reason... (he's the scientist, I'm the engineer)
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Yes, you need to buy a lot to make sure you get a good one. I don't have room to buy a dozen seedlings, but when I see seedlings from a new hybrid that I think looks promising, I usually get three or four. I have three Rhyncattleanthe Antone Tony Medeiros (Miya's Fascination 'Odoms Wildfire x Toshie Aoki 'Encore') that I bought from Odom a few years back. I'm excited about them, because that is my favorite red and my favorite yellow with red flares/lip (except maybe Williette Wong 'The Best'. It's amazing. You might even say that it is the best yellow with a red lip). But they are getting big, and I expect the first blooms in a year or so. I can't wait to see how they turn out.
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07-13-2020, 03:01 PM
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My main concern with walkeriana is the humidity. My understanding is that they need a very fast drying mix, or better yet be mounted, and they need high humidity. My humidity in the winter is too low for mounting plants.
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Walkeriana experiences low humidity in winter. I've been to its habitat in winter. It was near or above 90 F/32C. It gets more light in winter than in summer because the trees it grows on or under drop their leaves. If you have it with other plants indoors in winter the humidity should be fine. It will luxuriate in a humid summer outdoors under a tree, with frequent watering. If you dip it in water almost every day in winter, then it dries out, it will be fine.
Get a line-bred walkeriana from somewhere like H&R in Hawaii. They keep selecting and breeding the ones that are easier to grow. You and other local orchid people can do a group order from H&R. People in my orchid society do that.
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07-13-2020, 03:05 PM
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Walkeriana experiences low humidity in winter. I've been to its habitat in winter. It was near or above 90 F/32C. It gets more light in winter than in summer because the trees it grows on or under drop their leaves. If you have it with other plants indoors in winter the humidity should be fine. It will luxuriate in a humid summer outdoors under a tree, with frequent watering. If you dip it in water almost every day in winter, then it dries out, it will be fine.
Get a line-bred walkeriana from somewhere like H&R in Hawaii. They keep selecting and breeding the ones that are easier to grow. You and other local orchid people can do a group order from H&R. People in my orchid society do that.
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Thanks, ES that actually sounds perfect. That's how i grow my plants. Outside in dappled sun under trees in summer, and then under lights in the winter. You've tipped the scale here. I'm definitely going to get one haha
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07-13-2020, 03:24 PM
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Yes, you need to buy a lot to make sure you get a good one.
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So, you all will appreciate this story...
I was telling my husband last night about the suggestions of the group that I buy MORE orchids. He was thoughtful for a moment and then said, "well, if you need more, why don't you get a paintbrush and try hybridizing some of the ones you already have?". Sooooo, then I had to explain to him how that actually works, the timeframe involved, the stages from flower to pod to flasks to compots to pots. His response? "Well, that sounds like it will take too much room. You should buy more seedlings."
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07-13-2020, 03:52 PM
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So, you all will appreciate this story...
I was telling my husband last night about the suggestions of the group that I buy MORE orchids. He was thoughtful for a moment and then said, "well, if you need more, why don't you get a paintbrush and try hybridizing some of the ones you already have?". Sooooo, then I had to explain to him how that actually works, the timeframe involved, the stages from flower to pod to flasks to compots to pots. His response? "Well, that sounds like it will take too much room. You should buy more seedlings."
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Exactly! And that's the great thing about seedlings. They are so delightfully tiny! I have limited space, my growing areas are pretty full, but you better believe if I saw seedlings of a hybrid that really excited me, I could sure as heck find room for five more seedlings
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07-13-2020, 03:57 PM
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A cactus friend would leave new purchases in her car in the garage, and sneak them into the house one by one, so her husband didn't notice.
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07-13-2020, 05:12 PM
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Or, just make certain to plan the arrival of plants for when the rest of the family will not be at home and have everything ready to go so they can be potted and added to the collection before anyone arrives home (with time to clean up any mess and hide any boxes and packing material).
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There is a degree of truth to that. However, in most hybrids, there are a few exceptionally good ones, which do get the best from each of the parents.
And this brings us back to a series of articles I have been writing for a couple of local orchid societies: Why Buy More Than One. If you buy a single seedling of some new cross, your odds of getting a really good one, are remote. I usually buy anywhere from 3 to 12 of each, since I want to see multiple plants bloom, so I can select a good one (or two) to keep. And, the ones I keep, are then candidates for meristem propagation.
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I wish I had the space for multiples as I know I am taking a chance with those SVO orchids but I am just going to have to cross my fingers and hope that the ones I received are pleasing to me when they bloom. If I do not like the results, they will be candidates for an orchid society sale.
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07-13-2020, 05:27 PM
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...I was telling my husband last night about the suggestions of the group that I buy MORE orchids. He was thoughtful for a moment and then said, "well, if you need more, why don't you get a paintbrush and try hybridizing some of the ones you already have?". Sooooo, then I had to explain to him how that actually works, the timeframe involved, the stages from flower to pod to flasks to compots to pots. His response? "Well, that sounds like it will take too much room. You should buy more seedlings."
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I try to explain to parents of young kids that at decision points they should give the kids several defined choices, all of which are acceptable to the parents.
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07-13-2020, 05:41 PM
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I totally hide new orchid purchases sometimes. Or most of the time. When the box arrives, I take it from the front porch and bring it in through the garage, because my bedroom is right by the garage entrance, and then I leave it there until nobody is home or everybody is in bed, and then I unpack the boxes and place the plants, and nobody but me ever has to know hahahahahaha
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07-13-2020, 05:58 PM
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Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. 🤗
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