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Old 05-04-2010, 11:47 AM
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Hi, bought this as Ctsm sanguineum, which it obviously isn't.

Anybody have any ideas?

Sorry in advance for the bad pictures, I was in a rush this morning.







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Old 05-04-2010, 03:12 PM
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It kind of looks like its got some Clowesia in its background, though I'm sure someone with better Catasetum ID powers should jump in. Either way, it looks really cool.
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:46 PM
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Gorgeous... not 100% sure, but I would say Catasetum naso (or Ctsm sanguineum as second option - both species are very similar)... not a common coloration for any of these species though, however not impossible...

no Clowesia in this one...

where did you get it from?
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:53 PM
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The only reason I'm skeptical of the naso/sanguineum is because the lip has 3 lobes on the apical portion. Thats quite a striking difference from the "nose" on naso - which is only one lobe.
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The only reason I'm skeptical of the naso/sanguineum is because the lip has 3 lobes on the apical portion. Thats quite a striking difference from the "nose" on naso - which is only one lobe.
well, yes, indeed a bit awkward... that's why I said I am not 100% sure... however, some Ctsm. naso has this "trilobed" labellum... ok, I must admit I have not seen one so extrem as yours.... (and the colorations is not 100% matching either)

hhmmm... need to check for a picture os Ctsm. naso with 3 lobes... don't remember where I have it...

of course that could also be a hint to macrocarpum as a parent, but I do not remember I have seen nasoxmacrocarpum or sanguineumxmacrocarpum before...
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George Carr thinks its sanguineum var viride, but he's asking Jenny's opinion.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:19 PM
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interesting... I have never seen sanguineum var viride before...
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I have two sanguineum plants and the flowers look quite different to ones on this plant. My impression is that this plant could be a hybrid, with one parent being sanguineum of course and the other one possibly macrocarpum to explain the trident shape of the lip.
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After looking at this plant more closely, I can rule out macrocarpum, naso, and sanguineum as the triggers are parallel.

Edit - you can see the triggers in the first picture.
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