Staggered Blooms

[Sandy4453]

Originally Posted by Mike O'C

Jerry (and Sandy if you read this)...

And for Sandy look for amesianum on that index page and click on it to view then go to this website (add the 3 X W's and dot before it) flickr.com/photos/scott361/2216438326 to see what an awarded (by AOS) clone of Daisy Chain looks like and you will understand my concerns about the labelling of your plants.

I love threads like this that lead to all these in-depth details.

Jerry, now that I know what the difference is (thank you Mike!) between your Daisy Chain and mine, I’m going to be looking for a B. lepidum (yours) and re-tagging mine to ?????

Without meaning to hijack this thread but it seems appropriate to continue on with Mike's comments here and since the topic has evolved somewhat, I'd like to ask Mike what my plant, labeled Daisy Chain is? (Pics, below.) Mike, it resembles but does not look exactly like the photos from in either of the links you told me to look at. Cirrhopetalum Daisy Chain 'Woodbridge' JC/AOS_01 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! and :: Bulbophyllum von A bis Z | Bulbophyllum from A to Z | Orchideen Bilder | Orchid pictures ::. It looks similar but, not exactly like the amesianum. I'm not sure why you referenced this one, to look at?

I also have a Cirrhopetalum makoyanum, at least that's what it's tagged. I'll definitely post pics when it blooms to get your review on this.

P.S. These linked sites are outstanding references. I’ve bookmarked them for future use. Thanks for these explanations! Now, I’m even more confused!

Here's mine, tagged Daisy Chain...

[Jerry Delaney]

Cripes!!!! My memory is getting so bad I can't even remember long enough to attach the pictures!! Here you are Mike.

[Jerry Delaney]

Sandy, what size basket is this plant in?

[Sandy4453]

Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney

Sandy, what size basket is this plant in?

Jerry, it's small, 6".

I can't get over what I'm looking at in these last pics you posted. Outrageous! These are huge, the flowering is just amazing. What is that you've got the bulbo's growing on? Is it grailing wrapped around spagh? This is giving me some good ideas as my space is limited.

You GH looks great. Are you doing s/h for all/most of yours?

[Jerry Delaney]

Sandy, as soon as it's light enough, I am going to measure the leaves and rhizome length on my plant. It appears that your plant may be vegetatively different than mine. No, the vast majority of my plants are still in organic mixes, but I have been putting a few into S/H to see how they perform. The plant in the last picture I posted is growing on what I call a "sphagnum sandwich" for the lack of anything else to call it. It is simply a form made from 1/4" to 1/2" hardware cloth that measures 2' long, 4-6" wide and 1" thick. I fill the form with sphagnum and then mount plants on them. You can't see them, but there are 3 more Bulbos mounted on the other side. Not a good idea from the contamination point of view, but I wanted to utilize as much vertical space as I can. After all, I'm paying to heat and cool the whole thing so I try and use as much space as possible including the walk ways. The center bench rolls side to side thus eliminating one walk way and adding another 32 square feet of bench area.

[Mike O'C]

Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney

Cripes!!!! My memory is getting so bad I can't even remember long enough to attach the pictures!! Here you are Mike.

Thanks Jerry. The progeny looks very much like Bulbophyllu, rothschildianum but the colour has perhaps been darkened by the Bulbophyllum frostii. The latter is a more compact growing plant and the former more "ranbling" (quickly outgrows a pot.

[Mike O'C]

Originally Posted by Sandy4453

I love threads like this that lead to all these in-depth details.

Jerry, now that I know what the difference is (thank you Mike!) between your Daisy Chain and mine, I’m going to be looking for a B. lepidum (yours) and re-tagging mine to ?????

Without meaning to hijack this thread but it seems appropriate to continue on with Mike's comments here and since the topic has evolved somewhat, I'd like to ask Mike what my plant, labeled Daisy Chain is? (Pics, below.) Mike, it resembles but does not look exactly like the photos from in either of the links you told me to look at. Cirrhopetalum Daisy Chain 'Woodbridge' JC/AOS_01 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! and :: Bulbophyllum von A bis Z | Bulbophyllum from A to Z | Orchideen Bilder | Orchid pictures ::. It looks similar but, not exactly like the amesianum. I'm not sure why you referenced this one, to look at?

I also have a Cirrhopetalum makoyanum, at least that's what it's tagged. I'll definitely post pics when it blooms to get your review on this.

P.S. These linked sites are outstanding references. I’ve bookmarked them for future use. Thanks for these explanations! Now, I’m even more confused!

Here's mine, tagged Daisy Chain...

Sandy I would say that the plant that you show in the thumbnail is a DC. It is not a lepidum. The reason that I referred you to amesianum is because that is one of the parents of DC (the other being makoyanum). So I would think that the yellowish colouring comes from makoyanum and the shape and arrangement of the flowers from the amesianum. If you label it as DC I doubt if anybody would argue but if you label it as lepidum there would be quite a few who would doubt it
Enjoy your Bulbophyllums - they are an interesting genus to grow

[Jerry Delaney]

Mike, you have been a regular treasure trove of information! Thanks for all the information. Since you obviously grow several species in these genera would you mind kind of filling me in on what you are growing and how? I currently have plants in 3 or 4 different media and some work for me and others ------ well! The sites you mentioned have some wonderful pictures but would love to see some of yours if you have some available.

[Jerry Delaney]

OK all. I took some measurements today. These were done rather quick and dirty (it's not like I'm doing an award description).

PLANT
T rhizome length between pseudobulbs is 1.5 - 2.0 cm
The leaf is 3.5 cm wide and 12 cm long
The pseudobulb is 1.4 cm tall and 1.5 - 2.0 cm wide. Some appear slightly flattened.

FLOWER
Average # of flowers in umbel = 10
The dorsal sepal is 0.25 cm wide and 0.4 cm wide with an acute apex.
The petals - Yep, they are there!
The lateral sepals are 1.0 cm wide and 3.6 cm long
The lateral sepals are fused nearly the entire length beginning 0.2cm basally
The margins of the sepal are completely flat with no rolling to the ventral side
The color is as shown in the initial picture

Conclusions everyone? Anyone?

[Sandy4453]

Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney

The petals - Yep, they are there!
The color is as shown in the initial picture
Conclusions everyone? Anyone?

I understood these observations above, quite well, Jerry. The rest, fuggetaboutit! Conclusion...it's an outstanding specimen.