Staggered Blooms

[Mike O'C]

Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney

Thanks for the help on the web site Dorothy. The pictures were wonderful! Mike, I went to Haru's page and once getting there realized that it's all his fault that I am in this mess anyway!!!! I found this page about a couple of years and shortly there after succumbed and bought a dozen or so. His photos are fantastic! One question about his page. If I look at the first 5 pictures in the plate Cirr. makoyanum, they look more like the plant I have while picture #6 (bottom right) looks more like the Cirr. makoyanum in the Vienna pictures. Am I missing something?? I will change the label on mine Mike to Cirr flabelloveneris (?) and that way split the difference!!!!

Jerry, those are my two very favourite Bulbophyllum sites. My mouth drools when I visit them! The photos in both are excellent but differ in that Haru is a grower and photographs to get a nice picture. The University of Vienna is a scientific organisation and so they take photos of all parts of the flower. So I am not sure which 5 pictures you are referring to. If in the Vienna site then look mainly at the photo taken looking down on the umbel (flowers). Do a Goog;e search for Bulbophyllum brienianum (perhaps they have one on those 2 sites) and you will see it looks very much like makoyanum. Enjoy your Bulbophyllums - a very interesting genus

[Dorothy]

You are very welcome ..
and here is the link to Haru's Page - Haru's PAGE
in case others read this and are curious

[Tindomul]

I have to agree with Mike O'C after doing some of my own research. According Bulbophyllums and Their Allies, A Grower's Guide by Emily S. Siegerist Cirrhopetalum makoyanum is described in the following way:
Has 2-cm tall pseudobulbs that are fairly close together, with leaves 10 cm tall. The inflorescence is twice that length and has about 10 flowers. The dorsal sepal and petals are small, red brown with threadlike apices, and edged with pale hairs at least 0.1 cm long. The lateral sepals are almost 4 cm long and have the upper edges connate (in other words the two lateral sepals are fused) for almost the entire length and the lower edges rolled under and sometimes partially joined. This makes the sepals appear extremely narrow. The lateral sepals radiate from the umbel (the inflorescence), giving them the appearance of a sunflower (so I assume the author meant to say the blooms were mostly yellow).
This exactly describes the picture attached which is found at this website in this link:
:: Bulbophyllum von A bis Z | Bulbophyllum from A to Z | Orchideen Bilder | Orchid pictures ::

C. flabelloveneris is described as follows in the same book.
The pseudobulbs are 1.5 cm tall and are seldom more than 3 cm apart (seems to be more like what you have, from what I see in the picture). The leaves are about 16 to 17 cm long, the scape (flowering stem) is slightly taller. The dorsal sepal is less than 1 cm long, has hirsuute edges (hairy) and an acuminate apex (end in a point more or less). the 2.5-c, long lateral sepals are connate (fused) almost completely, and the petals are tapered (becoming more narrow) and hirsute (hairy) and have an acute apex (Ending in an acute angle, with a sharp point). The flower is usually a rose mauve, but there is a lovely pale yellow form also.

So whip out the old centimeter ruler and see if you can hammer out an ID for us. The only problem I have with the description versus the pictures is that none of the pictures show 10 flowers, they all show 12 or lots more.

[Mike O'C]

Originally Posted by Tindomul

I have to agree with Mike O'C after doing some of my own research. According Bulbophyllums and Their Allies, A Grower's Guide by Emily S. Siegerist Cirrhopetalum makoyanum is described in the following way:
Has 2-cm tall pseudobulbs that are fairly close together, with leaves 10 cm tall. The inflorescence is twice that length and has about 10 flowers. The dorsal sepal and petals are small, red brown with threadlike apices, and edged with pale hairs at least 0.1 cm long. The lateral sepals are almost 4 cm long and have the upper edges connate (in other words the two lateral sepals are fused) for almost the entire length and the lower edges rolled under and sometimes partially joined. This makes the sepals appear extremely narrow. The lateral sepals radiate from the umbel (the inflorescence), giving them the appearance of a sunflower (so I assume the author meant to say the blooms were mostly yellow).
This exactly describes the picture attached which is found at this website in this link:
:: Bulbophyllum von A bis Z | Bulbophyllum from A to Z | Orchideen Bilder | Orchid pictures ::

C. flabelloveneris is described as follows in the same book.
The pseudobulbs are 1.5 cm tall and are seldom more than 3 cm apart (seems to be more like what you have, from what I see in the picture). The leaves are about 16 to 17 cm long, the scape (flowering stem) is slightly taller. The dorsal sepal is less than 1 cm long, has hirsuute edges (hairy) and an acuminate apex (end in a point more or less). the 2.5-c, long lateral sepals are connate (fused) almost completely, and the petals are tapered (becoming more narrow) and hirsute (hairy) and have an acute apex (Ending in an acute angle, with a sharp point). The flower is usually a rose mauve, but there is a lovely pale yellow form also.

So whip out the old centimeter ruler and see if you can hammer out an ID for us. The only problem I have with the description versus the pictures is that none of the pictures show 10 flowers, they all show 12 or lots more.

Hail Caesar . Thanks Tindomul Not often that I have people agreeing with me and that is why I think the Biblical quote should have read "A Father (Husband) has no honour in his own household! "
As Christmas is approaching it is getting close for all us good children to write to Father Christmas and drop hints as to what we want to be given for Christmas instead of the usual socks, ties and handkerchiefs I suggest that you ask for that very nice book by Peter O'Byrne called "A to Z of South East Asian Orchid Species "(ISBN 981-04-4479-6). It illustrates 2 forms of lepidum as well as makoyanum (and brienianum which looks a bit like makoyanum). Oh well! I know that I am going to get handkerchiefs for Christmas again

[Tindomul]

Originally Posted by Mike O'C

Hail Caesar .

Ahh my favorite sound. If you want to know what I mean by that, skip to minute 4:27 on this you tube video. And turn the volume up.

YouTube - Alec Guinness & James Mason in The Fall of the Roman Empire

[Mike O'C]

Tindomul,
The movie did not work too well but gosh that must be going back quite a few years with those 2 actors.

[Tindomul]

Its too bad it did not work to well. The sound I am referring to is the sound of a crowd of extras (possibly thousands, back before computer magic) chanting my name. Hail Caesar.... Hail Caesar.... Hail Caesar..... ! Hehe, just a boost to my ego.
I beleive this movie is the original Gladiator.

[Jerry Delaney]

Mike
I know that you don't grow hybrids, but am going to send this anyway. This just opened yesterday. It is Crphm Crownpoint (Bulb roth X Cirr frostii. I just love the color on this. Tindomul, do you currently grow these genera?

[Tindomul]

Yea, I grow about ten or so from these genera, species and hybrids.

[Mike O'C]

Originally Posted by Jerry Delaney

Mike
I know that you don't grow hybrids, but am going to send this anyway. This just opened yesterday. It is Crphm Crownpoint (Bulb roth X Cirr frostii. I just love the color on this. Tindomul, do you currently grow these genera?

Jerry, Wot! No thumnails I grow both the parents and would still like to see the "baby"