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greenpassion 02-07-2018 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LFC25 (Post 865747)
Just to give an update on this phal. After I potted it has now grown a new leaf but still no roots. :)

I have ordered a heat mat to heat the roots. Hopefully, it can speed up the root growth.

One word. KelpMax!! Seriously, it'll make a huge difference in the time frame of growing new roots!!

LFC25 02-07-2018 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by greenpassion (Post 866326)
One word. KelpMax!! Seriously, it'll make a huge difference in the time frame of growing new roots!!

I use SuperThrive instead as it is available at Amazon and lower shipping cost.

Do I still soak it with the ST since the plant has grown a new leaf now?

greenpassion 02-07-2018 09:06 PM

I'm not certain super thrive is the same as KelpMax. Maybe Ray will chime in here...

camille1585 02-08-2018 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by greenpassion (Post 866337)
I'm not certain super thrive is the same as KelpMax. Maybe Ray will chime in here...

Kelpmax and Superthrive are two very different things. However Kelpmax can't be found outside the US, and equivalent products are hard to find (mainly sold in bulk to professionals- at least in Europe). If the choice is between superthrive and nothing, I would go with ST.

greenpassion 02-08-2018 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by camille1585 (Post 866354)
Kelpmax and Superthrive are two very different things. However Kelpmax can't be found outside the US, and equivalent products are hard to find (mainly sold in bulk to professionals- at least in Europe). If the choice is between superthrive and nothing, I would go with ST.

I didn't know KelpMax couldn't be found outside the US. Why is that? Have you never used it Camille?

camille1585 02-08-2018 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by greenpassion (Post 866359)
I didn't know KelpMax couldn't be found outside the US. Why is that? Have you never used it Camille?

I may be wrong on this point, but I think Kelpmax is exclusive to Ray's business (I know he named the product). The product itself isn't novel, as the same extract (same kelp species and same extraction method) exists elsewhere. In Europe I know that it's called Kelpak. The big difference is that it's marketed almost entirely towards businesses, and I'm having a hell of a hard time finding sites that don't do only wholesale, or not in astronomically massive quantities. Ray, as far as I can tell, is the only one to have made this product easily available to the general public.

So no, I have never used it. There are plenty of other kelp based products here that work reasonably well, but not as effective as Kelpmax due to its extraction method which better preserves auxins.

I may be going back 'home' to CT this summer for my best friend's wedding, and maybe I'll bring back a bottle in my checked bag.

greenpassion 02-08-2018 03:47 AM

Bring back 2 or 3 Camille. You won't regret it!

camille1585 02-08-2018 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by greenpassion (Post 866362)
Bring back 2 or 3 Camille. You won't regret it!

Would love to, but for every trip back to the states I go there with a nearly empty suitcase, and come back with it so full that it's a struggle to meet the weight limit! Guess I should go more frequently than once every 4 years or so...

LFC25 02-08-2018 05:56 AM

I was looking for Kelpmax previously but could only found it in Ray's site. After checking the shipping cost alone is already more than the solution bottle. No choice got to opt for ST.

greenpassion 02-08-2018 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LFC25 (Post 866369)
I was looking for Kelpmax previously but could only found it in Ray's site. After checking the shipping cost alone is already more than the solution bottle. No choice got to opt for ST.

Try Amazon. I've seen it on their site, but I prefer to buy from Ray.


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