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05-30-2016, 01:06 PM
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It doesn't take long to kill Cattleya roots in those conditions. With some kelp and advise as mentioned above, you should be able to get some new root growth. The bulbs will likely never plump up completely, but the aim now is to get some new roots and a new growth started.
Next time, you may have to risk the life of the blooms for the life of the plant when they are in moss like that. I have pulled them out and got all the moss off and quickly and gently soaked roots in seaweed (kelp) and potted them without losing the blooms. Good luck.
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05-30-2016, 01:35 PM
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The only thing I can think to add is when you get a new terracotta pot don't forget to soak it in water before you use it. That will help with water retention.
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05-30-2016, 01:38 PM
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Putting Cattleya in moss depends greatly on where/how you are growing and whether the plant in question is a species (i.e. where does it hail from) or if the specifics of the cross are known. The majority of catts tend not to do well in moss; in the flip side, the majority of the sophronitis (now unfortunately moved to cattleya) do very well in it, provided you don't allow the moss to break down, pot them small/tight and use clay. The same goes for many of the cattleya hybrids with sophronitis in their lineage. I believe many growers (especially beginners) have problems because they tend to over pot their plants, not understand the relationship of their media of choice in relation to their pot of choice or fail to research the needs of the plants they seek to grow. Sorry to ramble, but put me in the camp of "grows 'Cattleya' in moss"
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05-30-2016, 01:51 PM
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Putting Cattleya in moss depends greatly on where/how you are growing and whether the plant in question is a species (i.e. where does it hail from) or if the specifics of the cross are known. The majority of catts tend not to do well in moss; in the flip side, the majority of the sophronitis (now unfortunately moved to cattleya) do very well in it, provided you don't allow the moss to break down, pot them small/tight and use clay. The same goes for many of the cattleya hybrids with sophronitis in their lineage. I believe many growers (especially beginners) have problems because they tend to over pot their plants, not understand the relationship of their media of choice in relation to their pot of choice or fail to research the needs of the plants they seek to grow. Sorry to ramble, but put me in the camp of "grows 'Cattleya' in moss"
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I agree, you can grow them in almost anything, if you have it figured out how. I grow my Blc. Ports of Paradise 'Emerald Isle' in moss, simply because the person who gave it to me insisted it will die if put in something else. I don't believe that for a minute, but I put a piece of it in bark also, just as a back up and an experiment. My Catts normally don't do well in moss as they must grow cool in the winter and it holds too much moisture for too long. They are both doing very well. However, my one in moss, is in an air cone pot with very good aeration, and since I grow a lot of Cattleyas, I have a fairly good idea of how to treat it. The ones coming from huge vendors in Taiwan extremely stuffed with moss and in a tiny flimsy pot with one hole on the bottom, are not the way to grow a Catt. for most people, especially beginners. It is a death sentence and likely just a way to transport them for the show. I find most of the ones I buy like this are already suffering when I un-pot them. So the sooner the better.
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05-30-2016, 07:41 PM
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I hate moss for Catts and phals.
Catts with no roots? No biggie. Plant them in coarse bark and treat them like any other. Ok, so you water them more often, but tbh if they have it in them then you can save them, and if they don't nothing you can can do will save them.
I have pulled catts back from the edge several times. I have never bothered about humidity, and just keep them upright with three rocks.
I don't think it is possible to overpot if the medium is allowing enough free air thru.
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05-30-2016, 08:06 PM
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So far this is what I have them in. To increase the humidity I put rocks at the bottom and I have a little bit of water in there as well.
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So far this is what I have them in. To increase the humidity I put rocks at the bottom and I have a little bit of water in there as well.
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To be blunt, get rid of the water or you will kill them.
Empty pot, few stones for stability, spray with water daily to moisten the terracotta. NO_STANDING_WATER.
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05-31-2016, 12:09 AM
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These are all grown in moss or moss over pumice; the whole plant shot is for reference to pot size; if you use moss you must under pot & use clay.
As the mantra goes, ask 25 orchid people how they grow and what media is best and you'll get 35 replies.
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05-31-2016, 07:16 AM
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These are all grown in moss or moss over pumice; the whole plant shot is for reference to pot size; if you use moss you must under pot & use clay.
As the mantra goes, ask 25 orchid people how they grow and what media is best and you'll get 35 replies.
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True dat.
Me, I used to pot catts in large pots with coarse bark. That way they simply can't be overpotted or overwatered. Potting them in moss requires real knowledge and grasp of orchid growing, as well as keeping your finger on the pulse at all times.
Mine now are on mounts, - with moss for a water reserve and again, if you can over water them there I will be impressed.
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