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Old 01-19-2016, 12:51 PM
Plodde Plodde is offline
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I have an ass load of Aerides and Rhynchostylis.
As of late the night temps have been around 55F-57F. A few weeks ago it even dipped into the high 40's.
I haven't seen much progress with the leaves... many have fallen off : ( but there has been a lot of root growth. I am still soaking them daily and sometimes even leaving them overnight to soak and in the morning the water is very cold.
I do have very good circulation in my indoor greenhouse and i have a large panel of T5's sitting above the greenhouse which helps with warmth during the day. Day temps are in the high to mid 60's.

My Rhynchostylis giganteas are NOT liking the cold!!

I have 2 Neofinetia falcatas in spike right now, Shunkyuden and MANGOKU-NO-MAI. I know these are typically slow growers but i dont know if the cold is making them even slower. I feel like they are progressing at a snails pace. I bought both of them on 10/4/15 in spike ( very small nubs) and now i have one that is in bud, just starting to form spurs and the other one has barley done anything.
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Old 01-19-2016, 02:32 PM
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Neofinetia are different with respect to temperature and water requirements of other Vanda. The geographic distribution offers information on their culture. I think Neofinetia are Vanda that adapted to their environment.
I think Neofinetia and Vanda are the same but different too. That's why I was pondering the Vanda's response to cold. She slowed down. Not good for Vandas. But, maybe the Neos when dry and cold, slow down too. Maybe that's how they adapted to survive the Japanese winters.

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Neofinetias are highly adaptable plants to YOUR conditions.

If you grow warm in winter (good light and above 18C nights) treat them as in spring/summer. Water when dry. This is esp under lights, where they grow constantly, therefore needing water and nutrients (very light feeding).

If you grow with cold nights (below 15C nights), treat as winter rest time. Water when crispy dry or they will rot (unless there constant air circulation).

I always water base on plant performance. They tell me what to do. If roots start, it's time to increase water/fertilizer. This happens in late winter for some.

So no matter what time of year and lighting, the plant will tell you what it needs. Yes, it's good to 'force' a winter cool rest for better health and blooming, but not necessary. I have bloom plants well even without winter rest.

For Vandas, each species has it's needs of cool nights or not. If it has the background of warm night requirements (most round hybrids like Ascocendas), it will sulk in cold. But if it has cold species like coerulea, it will thrive with cool nights in winter.

I have roots of vandas stick in vases that had cold water for days. All fine but I drain out water once a week. Keeps water fresh and warms them up with new room T water.

This is my experience. Hope I haven't confused anyone


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Didn't confuse me. Lots of good information! I have seen surprise roots poking out and not all Neos like a rest. Both types go back into normal care and conditions.

Don't know what type of Vanda I have. Going to give her a try with your watering culture.

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This is very interesting.
Since last August I put together a small collection of Vandaceae.
Apart from two Darwinara they are all seedlings deflasked last August.
These days are the coldest of the year and the night temperatures are just above 60 F.
Also I have noticed that the roots tend to stay green, so I decreased the frequency of watering.
But I noticed that although very slowly there are signs of growth.
Particularly darwinara started spiking and neofinetia produced new growth.
Vanda and Rhynchostylis show modest growth of new leaves.
Best wishes to you and your plants
ciao Nicola
Good to hear someone else has seen the roots staying green! Interesting the the Darwinara and Neofinetia both produced the most growth

Good luck with your Vandaceae!

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For WARM GROWING Vandas, the lower limit is 55F at night. Below that treshold, they go into dormancy and sulk for months.

For COOLER GROWING Vandas (tricolor, etc.), you can go a bit lower, and cristata is even more tolerant.

In the northern part of it's range, Neofinetia falcata is exposed to snow and a touch of frost.

Common for all Vandas, during the colder & darker months, you should scale back watering & fertilizer - but do not stop watering.
Wish I knew what type of Vanda I have. It's on the big side with white/pink petals and a bright pink lip. I know now it's a warm growing Vanda. Hope she doesn't sulk for long...

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I have an ass load of Aerides and Rhynchostylis.
As of late the night temps have been around 55F-57F. A few weeks ago it even dipped into the high 40's.
I haven't seen much progress with the leaves... many have fallen off : ( but there has been a lot of root growth. I am still soaking them daily and sometimes even leaving them overnight to soak and in the morning the water is very cold.
I do have very good circulation in my indoor greenhouse and i have a large panel of T5's sitting above the greenhouse which helps with warmth during the day. Day temps are in the high to mid 60's.

My Rhynchostylis giganteas are NOT liking the cold!!

I have 2 Neofinetia falcatas in spike right now, Shunkyuden and MANGOKU-NO-MAI. I know these are typically slow growers but i dont know if the cold is making them even slower. I feel like they are progressing at a snails pace. I bought both of them on 10/4/15 in spike ( very small nubs) and now i have one that is in bud, just starting to form spurs and the other one has barley done anything.
Shunkydun and Nangoku-No-Mai are both neat Neos. Have no clue why one would be in bud and the other still a small nub.

Your best bet for your specific questions being answered is to start your own thread. Lots of knowledgable people are here.
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