Plants that don't thrive

[Suzanne17]

What do you do with your plants that don't bloom or thrive? I find myself holding on to plants that are just lingering or stagnant (after working to improve their conditions of course) and they are taking up valuable real estate. But I have always felt odd about throwing away a live plant. Just wondering what others do. I am sure I will keep on feeding and watering these (mostly oncs) because I don't really want to deal with shipping them and they aren't nice enough to take to an orchid society.

Second question....I have a couple of phals that I mostly killed (they have roots but no leaves). I read somewhere that these might throw basal keikis but I'm wondering how long I should wait. They are still getting fed and watered too as long as they appear to have viable roots.


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[cbuchman]

I give my non-thriving orchids to others in my Orchid Society. You never know 0 they may give you something in return....

[LizB88]

I use to feel the same way about getting rid off plants that are not thriving in my care. That changed once space became an issue. Now the only plants that I keep in ICU are the once that I will have a hard time replacing. so I no longer keep just the roots around in hopes of a keiki, they take to long and like you said, they occupy precious real state that is need it for other plants.

[bil]

Originally Posted by LizB88

I use to feel the same way about getting rid off plants that are not thriving in my care. That changed once space became an issue. Now the only plants that I keep in ICU are the once that I will have a hard time replacing.

Succinct and to the point.

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Originally Posted by AnonYMouse

I recently read that there is nothing wrong with the plant but our care for them (paraphrasing). I think genetics plays a part in 1/1000 (probably greater), so the odds are, we're at fault.

If you haven't changed your care for them, try something new. That something new can be someone new as the caretaker.

I use the damaged ones as training aids to rescue the dying in the hope that if I ever have something worth saving, I'll know what not to do.

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Originally Posted by MattWoelfsen

If you learned anything from growing these orchids, then I would recommend buying replacements--especially the Phalaenopsis. Those rootless plants are too stark a reminder of a failed relationship! As to waiting for keiki, as others have said, they take too long to grow into blooming plants.

Your Phals probably died due to crown rot. Crown rot occurs when water is left in the leaves and sun went down and the temperature changed. Water in the morning, dry off the water that collect in the crown of the plant. Or avoid getting the center of the plant wet.

I would shred the remains and throw them in the garden as compost. Then go to the nearest store and buy replacements!

Good post, the only thingg I would say tho is that water in the crown per se is no threat. I deliberately wet mine down and fill the crown out of spite.. Not lost one yet that I have done this to and I have been doing it for the last year religiously.
However, as Matt says, I do NOT water like that when the orchids are too cold, and I don't water late in the day. IMO, also it is cold or heat that will damage the crown, or stress it so much that the water chills it beyond recovery.

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Originally Posted by RJSquirrel

I throw em out. Do your fellow OS members a favor and don't give them your trash. They will appreciate that in time.

That is so true. I will give a plant to someone IF IT IS IN GOOD ORDER, otherwise, I bin it.

[Zabeta]

I have the same problem with a couple plants (one oncidium and one phal). They're not really doing anything. Both are not in great shape, and they show very small signs of growth, but they're mostly not reviving themselves.

Anyway, I know how you feel. I definitely can't throw them out, but I also can't really give them away. I guess you could label them "rescue orchids" and try to sell them here or elsewhere, to see if anyone wants to try reviving them. . . .

[theloyalplum]

If I could get to a OS meeting, I would probably trade away the ones that don't like me for ones that will! If you don't want to do that, you could donate it to the OS (if it's a qualified Non-profit entity*) and get a tax deduction, while ensuring the plant's probable survival in its next home. More complicated tax requisites may apply.**

[NYCorchidman]

Originally Posted by cbuchman

I give my non-thriving orchids to others in my Orchid Society. You never know 0 they may give you something in return....

I love it, Carrie! hahahaha

By the way, I forgot to tell you that your talk was really good. You made it very fun and I'm sure everyone loved it.

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I will add a few words and some might be a repetition of what others have already said.

I only grow things that I can provide proper conditions for. This I think is the most important thing to have healthy plants.
But then some plants are just more vigorous and better bloomer than others even under the same good conditions.
And then there's this misfortune that can happen to some random plants, like rot and stuff. You just have no control over things like this. Living things are in constant battle with other living things that want to eat them. lol

I do not have very much patience in waiting for something that does not grow well or flower for a long time. They are simply not worth it and I have no problem letting go of them.
Fortunately, I grow what I can grow, so I rarely have this kind of problem.
When I get tired of certain plants, or I need more space for something that I want more, then easily replaceable mericlones or otherwise commonly available plants or something I just don't want anymore, will go to either trash bins or other people who want them. This is the main reason I joined the local society.

If you find joy in nursing and brining something back to life (I have done this too in the past), then that's fine, but if the condition of plants is too severe, then the recovery can take a very long time and as you say they take up precious space all the while they are recovering (and sometimes they do not recover).
Look at how many beautiful plants are out there for you to try.
It is personal choice I guess, but if you have plants that are really having a tough time, it is about time to let go and get a nice new one to start fresh.
You will forget about the old ones and have fun with the new healthy plants.
Isn't it the hobby about? enjoying, not having headache?

[desertanimal]

Since I'm moving, it has forced my hand and I've been giving them away here for the price off shipping. Before they go, I feel torn. Once they're gone, I feel relieved! And taking the time to mail them feels better than throwing them in the trash!


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[modern_fumie]

Originally Posted by desertanimal

Since I'm moving, it has forced my hand and I've been giving them away here for the price off shipping. Before they go, I feel torn. Once they're gone, I feel relieved! And taking the time to mail them feels better than throwing them in the trash!


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I'm moving in 6 mo and I'm already dreading the "cull". You've given me an idea...

[AnonYMouse]

I recently read that there is nothing wrong with the plant but our care for them (paraphrasing). I think genetics plays a part in 1/1000 (probably greater), so the odds are, we're at fault.

If you haven't changed your care for them, try something new. That something new can be someone new as the caretaker.