Not a Cattleya NOID? Translate label + leaf ??

[ElenaMarie]

Hi Everyone!

I confess, I couldn't pass this little orchid up. The pot is 1"x1" and it has some strange (to me) leaf issue. I think it's just dehydrated since it does have roots and was very dry, but thought you guys might can assist.

When I took it out of the netting in which it was packaged, the label in the pot says the following (keyed exactly as the tag reads):

HC 575 LC. SCHILLERIANA VAR. COERULEA
'PARADISE BLUE' WHITE W/BLUE LIP 4/12/11

I thought I was getting a little NoID but if I'm reading this correctly, this is a named hybrid. Can anyone translate it for me?

Also, the outside label says to transplant it immediately into a 5-6" pot. Is this the appropriate time for that? I thought one should avoid planting into much larger pots? Am I missing something?

Oh, and one more thing. The brown flaw in the center of the leaf, what is that? I sprayed it thoroughly for bugs and fungi, but haven't a clue what the brown spot is.

Thanks in advance! The leaf pics are below.

[ElenaMarie]

BTW, it isn't really blue. It's white bordered with light mauve on the petals and sepals, and a deep purple lip. Don't know why they call it "Paradise Blue" because blue it isn't.

[msaar]

Originally Posted by ElenaMarie

BTW, it isn't really blue. It's white bordered with light mauve on the petals and sepals, and a deep purple lip. Don't know why they call it "Paradise Blue" because blue it isn't.

Take a look at your photo again. The "Paradise Blue" is about as blue as you can expect from this grex. The flower is white with slate-blue lip mid-lobe and edges of the side lobes. If the sepals and petals have any mauve on them, the photo is probably incorrectly labelled.
Look here: http://www.hihybrids.com/sc_images/p...arge_image.jpg

[ElenaMarie]

Originally Posted by msaar

Take a look at your photo again. The "Paradise Blue" is about as blue as you can expect from this grex. The flower is white with slate-blue lip mid-lobe and edges of the side lobes. If the sepals and petals have any mauve on them, the photo is probably incorrectly labelled.
Look here: http://www.hihybrids.com/sc_images/p...arge_image.jpg

Oooooo, that's beautiful! I hope the pic on the outer label is wrong, I'd love to have one of those! The outer label had no variety name, just said Cattleya. The tag in the pot is what said "Paradise Blue."

Thank you so much! Now it's not just a challenge. It's a mystery!

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Originally Posted by Junebug

It looks like your seeding sized plant is ready to be freshly planted in a slightly larger pot, 2 or 3 inches, but no larger.

Just to make sure I get this correct, wait until it's no longer dehydrated and then move to a larger pot but NOT the 5-6 inch pot specified on the label?

[Zoi2]

Originally Posted by ElenaMarie

Just to make sure I get this correct, wait until it's no longer dehydrated and then move to a larger pot but NOT the 5-6 inch pot specified on the label?

If it were my plant I would repot ASAP into fresh media in a 2-3" seedling pot.
If you repot to a 5-6" pot chances are you will kill the plant as the media will not dry properly for such a tiny seedling.
Joann

[ElenaMarie]

Originally Posted by Zoi2

If it were my plant I would repot ASAP into fresh media in a 2-3" seedling pot.
If you repot to a 5-6" pot chances are you will kill the plant as the media will not dry properly for such a tiny seedling.
Joann

Sounds like a plan to me! I know what I'll be doing tomorrow. Oh, and is a seedling pot any different from any other pot? I have on hand a 3 inch clay orchid pot, will that work? Sorry for being so dense.

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Originally Posted by Zoi2

If you purchased this plant from a box store as a "bag baby", the picture is just a representation of what the type of orchid flower will look like. The tag in the pot is the name of the plant. (Unless something got screwed up at the grower).
Joann

Oh AWESOME!!! I so hope it's the blue blue. Thank you!

Yeah, it was a box store. I was there just to pick up a couple of small lemon ferns, I swear I wasn't going in to even peek at orchids, but I couldn't help it.

[Junebug]

Originally Posted by ElenaMarie

Oooooo, that's beautiful! I hope the pic on the outer label is wrong, I'd love to have one of those! The outer label had no variety name, just said Cattleya. The tag in the pot is what said "Paradise Blue."

Thank you so much! Now it's not just a challenge. It's a mystery!

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Just to make sure I get this correct, wait until it's no longer dehydrated and then move to a larger pot but NOT the 5-6 inch pot specified on the label?

If the roots look good I'd go ahead and repot it into a slightly larger pot. Three inch net baskets work well for seedlings in transition. I used a small amount of loosely packed sphag with some tree fern fiber and charcoal thrown in for good drainage. Net pots are great because the open slots allow for rapid drainage and evaporation.

Whatever the style of pot, make sure that you have plenty of drainage. It looks like your little plant has been lacking in moisture. When it's repotted you'll have to monitor it closely to make sure that the roots are receiving moisture but not too much and not for extended periods of time. The medium needs to dry between watering sessions.

[ElenaMarie]

Originally Posted by Junebug

If the roots look good I'd go ahead and repot it into a slightly larger pot. Three inch net baskets work well for seedlings in transition. I used a small amount of loosely packed sphag with some tree fern fiber and charcoal thrown in for good drainage. Net pots are great because the open slots allow for rapid drainage and evaporation.

Whatever the style of pot, make sure that you have plenty of drainage. It looks like your little plant has been lacking in moisture. When it's repotted you'll have to monitor it closely to make sure that the roots are receiving moisture but not too much and not for extended periods of time. The medium needs to dry between watering sessions.

I'm afraid I don't have any net pots, and while I do have sphag I haven't any tree fern fiber. I do have a bag of medium bark/charcoal/perlite mix, will that do?

The clay pots have worked nicely for the two phals I got that were in soggy moss for far too long. In fact I wonder if I need to water them more than I am. But I've already got those two under close monitoring so this little guy won't be ignored.

I'm just so tickled that it might be that gorgeous plant that msaar linked to. I can't let it die now!

Thanks so much Junebug!

[ElenaMarie]

Originally Posted by msaar

Take a look at your photo again. The "Paradise Blue" is about as blue as you can expect from this grex. The flower is white with slate-blue lip mid-lobe and edges of the side lobes. If the sepals and petals have any mauve on them, the photo is probably incorrectly labelled.
Look here: http://www.hihybrids.com/sc_images/p...arge_image.jpg

Here are the two labels. What do you think--wrong photo or both tags wrong about blue?

[Zoi2]

Your plant is definately dehydrated, no it is not ready for a larger pot and the brown spot looks to me like mechanical damage.
I would take it out of the pot, clean it up and check the roots then repot in fresh media in the same size pot.
What about the name is confusing?
Joann