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Old 04-24-2010, 02:32 AM
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I'm so excited and proud to own my first orchid. They're apparently not very popular in my small, Mississippi-hill-country town. I've been combing stores for the past couple months for one, and finally at Lowe's, a few hours from where I live, my dad and I ran across a shelf of them! I fell in love with a dainty, smooth-colored Phalaenopsis. It was buried underneath the other bigger orchids, and I think I knocked one of the flowers off when I was trying to pull it out from under them, though I was careful. Then again, that bloom may've already fallen off. It's not very tall, definitely no more than eight inches if that, and now only has three flowers. The bottom one is healthy and beautiful, but the top two are kind of saggy--the top one especially. The lively one has a light green stem connecting it to the main dark green stem, and the next up has more of a white stem with a hint of green and pink. The top, most saggy one has a pink stem. The leaver are a darkish green, but they're pretty firm and leathery.

I've only been into gardening and flowers for like a week or so--though it's been a zealous new love--so I'm not very savvy on how to take care of them. I've read up on them some, about how it's important not to over-water them and don't get the flowers wet when you water them and keep them in a humid place with bright, indirect light, etc.

I'm basically just feeling like a paranoid new mother even though I've only had it for a few hours--I'm completely attached to it!

So what should I do about those wilty, saggy blooms? The color of the flower is fine, other than that mini-stem-thing, it's just not holding itself up and is starting to close up or something. Do I pinch them off or let them fall away on their own or do something to make them better?

Or anything else I should know?

I would put up pictures, but I don't have a working digital camera...so I'm left to descriptions.
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Old 04-24-2010, 04:34 AM
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Let me get you acquainted with Phals.

Phals usually grow on trees (plants that grow on trees are also known as epiphytes) that are devoid of moss, or have very little of it.

The natural habitat of an evergreen Phal (yes, there are deciduous species of Phalaenopsis, but they're specialty plants that aren't readily available to the general public) are tropical Asian swamp forests. The trees are usually partially submerged in the swamp water.

Sometimes, the trees are near rivers or streams.

Here's a link to a pic of a Phal in the wild:

Photographing phals in situ on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

The person [sarawaklens] who posted this pic has a whole host of pics of Phals in the wild. I highly suggest checking them out to have an understanding of what a wild Phal experiences. I encourage you to think out of the box, I'm not sending you the link to show you pretty pictures.

The temperature range is usually around 60 F to 95 F.

There are seasonal differences in temperature, but they're within the mentioned range.

For example, cooler months would be in the range of 60 F to 80F. Warmer months would probably be around 70F to 95F.

To ensure that the plant is able to flower, make sure there's at least a 10 degree F difference between night and day.

Because they're in tropical swamp forests, make sure the humidity is at least 60%. This will ensure the buds bloom nicely and the plant will grow well.

If the growing area you have the Phal in is rather dry, probably one of the best ways to provide humidity is to get a humidifier. Another way to provide some humidity is to have other plants (preferably other epiphytical plants - it's a hygiene thing) around it. Yet another method would be to use a humidity tray of some sort (it provides limited levels of humidity, but at least it's something).

Bright shade is adequate enough for your Phal. Any brighter and you risk burning the plant. You should get an idea of what the lighting levels are like in the photos. Remember, they grow on trees, the branches and leaves of the trees are providing shade for the orchid.

If you have a light meter, you can more accurately get a reading for the amount of light that's reaching your plant. It's not necessary, but it helps a bit.

Make sure the air circulation is adequate. The room you have your Phal in shouldn't be stuffy and stale.

Under no circumstance should a Phal be exposed to cold drafts or air from the AC.

Notice in the pics of the wild Phals, how they're positioned on the trees.

The crown is perpendicular to the tree trunk or branch, with the leaf tips pointing downwards. Sometimes, they're hanging off the tree trunk or branch pendulously. This growth orientation prevents water from getting trapped in the crown, thus preventing crown rot.

I recommend positioning the plant in as close a manner as what I described and to what you see in the pics.

Next, I want to get you started on the right train of thought regarding plants in general...

Flowers are not the best indicators of plant health. They're the plant's reproductive organs (genitalia).

I suggest that you check out the roots of your Phal (Phal is the actual scientific abbreviation for the genus name Phalaenopsis).

A healthy root will have a shiny white velamen layer of tissue surrounding the green fleshy roots, with a green or reddish brown (or sometimes yellow or orange) growing root tip. Like so:

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Pay attention to how the roots are green. The roots are able to photosynthesize. Also notice how in the pics of the Phals in the wild, the roots are exposed. That means they're also exposed to the light.

What this means is that you are able to use a clear plastic pot that allows for you to see the roots, get an idea when the potting media has dried out, and allows for the Phal's roots to photosynthesize.

A clear plastic pot is not mandatory, as the roots will adjust and switch from performing the duties of photosynthesis to something else.

As for what kind of potting medium to use, I recommend either medium or large grade bark. If your growing area is too dry, you may want to use quality long strand sphagnum moss (the ones from New Zealand are good) as top dressing (use it only as top dressing if you have to). Another alternative would be coconut husk chip potting mix.

The pot should only be big enough to fit the root mass comfortably, no larger. Larger pots cause problems by allowing the potting media to stay too wet for much too long (it will drown the roots and cause root rot).

You may allow the buds on your Phal to just fall off on their own. What you're experiencing is most likely what's called bud blast. It is usually caused by some sort of stress.

This is all I can think of at the moment. If there are any questions please don't hesitate to ask. Many people here can help.

I do highly recommend finding a way to post pictures, as that will save a lot of time describing things, and people will be able to accurately diagnose the situation much faster. There are certain problems that can be so similar to each other in appearance or by description, that a photo will make all the difference in knowing what's really going on versus just making an educated guess.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:05 AM
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Welcome to OB!

Philip pretty much hit all the high points.

I would like to add a little about light. If you have a very bright North facing window sill this will usually be enough light. East widows are prefered by many home growers. I have not burned a Phal yet on an East facing window sill.
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Old 04-24-2010, 11:40 AM
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Hi there!

I bought a phal from Home Depot and King gave me a lot of terrific advice on what to do. I posted pictures of its blooms and roots if you want to take a look and see what he had to say. If our phals seems to be in the same condition, the info can be very useful to you. The link is below.

Phal from Home Depot, is it healthy?
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Old 04-28-2010, 05:57 PM
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Thanks so much for all the advice!
I'm sorry it's taken me a bit to respond--my internet's been down since Saturday morning due to tornadoes. We didn't even get hit and our local provider (I was even outside most of the day in the yard) and the internet still gets shut off, lol! /rant

I've repotted the orchid out of that sphagum moss or whatever it's called. Now it's in this Orchid Potting Soil from Miracle Grow. I was absolutely horrified when I looked at the roots to compare them to the picture--they were flat and papery and looked more like thick straw! I couldn't see any green on them except for right up at the base of the plant. I didn't cut the roots off (should I have?) though several inevitably fell off or were pulled off as I was brushing the moss off of it. The moss was super dry and brittle, which explains a lot.

I've let the orchid sit outside on the porch next to me begonias during the day, which seemed to help it (we've had wonderful weather lately, so worth the tornado threats). That's seemed to liven it up a bit, and the leaves look better--they've lightened up a bit and are a bit firmer. All the blooms wilted and fell off, though, one Sunday, one Monday, and the last today. The stem was turning some strange off-color, like a brownish-whitish-green, if that makes sense. Hopefully I did the right thing in cutting it down. The stem has these little knotch things every two inches or so, and I cut it off at one of those, about two knotches up from the base where it was still a healthy green color.

I gave it some orchid food yesterday, so hopefully that'll help it also.

I've been worried about it, because even though the leaves look great, the stem and blooms wilting and how the roots had looked concerned me.
But then just a few moments ago, I brushed back the soil in one spot, trying to move the bamboo stick, and happened across a thick, healthy, green root! So it's apparently doing better after all.

How can you tell if a Phal is burned?
And did I do the right thing on cutting back the stem? I cut it at a bit of an angle, like Dad had gotten me to do on some other flowers, with my clippers.

And also, the leaves look great in color and feel great, but I'm noticing one of them has three little white bumps on it. They all will get this white powder on them which I can wipe of with a wet hand, but those bumps? Is that bad or nothing to worry about?

I do hope to get pictures of it soon and put up.

Thanks again!
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Cutting back the inflorescence is fine. Just use a pair of sterilized cutters (cold or hot sterilization techniques don't matter).

Cold sterilization deals with chemical means of sterilization. Such as alcohol or bleach.

Hot sterilization deals with using a flame to sterilize the tool.

Cutting at an angle above the node is fine. Really doesn't make too much of a difference in orchids whether the inflorescence is cut at an angle or not.

Don't know what you mean by "little bumps". This definitely needs to have a pic posted of it. Could be scale insects. There could also potentially be a mealy bug infestation. IDK.

If you've been watering using tap water, hard water stains could also be something you may need to take care of eventually.

As long as it doesn't get cooler than 60 F outside, you're fine.

Sunburn on an orchid is hard to describe because the description of it reads like a description for a disease. But generally the description would go like so:

It's got a crispy cream colored center (from the dead cells - think dead, dry grass), some black surrounding that, and some yellow surrounding that. Sometimes, if you catch it early enough, it's just the black and the yellow. However, the shape of this damage is usually elliptical or highly irregular, much in the same vain as when you grab a lighter and you try to burn a hole in the leaf.

Sometimes a clue to over exposure to the sun would be not only the leaf turning yellow, but also when it starts to produce alot of reddish-purple pigments called anthocyanins (these sometimes acts as the plant's "sunscreen").

However, be aware that sometimes, in certain kinds of orchids, overproduction of anthocyanins is not a bad thing (particularly in Cattleyas and Relatives - this is a good sign; but in Phals it's a sign it might be too much light - but usually, Phals don't produce too much anthocyanins, they'll mostly just turn yellow before burning).
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Just wanted to add a little something for your future repotting adventures. If you soak the pot/roots in water right before repotting it will be easier to get the moss or bark off the roots without breaking too many. The roots are a bit more flexible when they are wet also, so it's easier to get them into the new pot and getting medium in between the roots without much breakage. Hope this helps for next time!
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Hi. I just bought a Phal last week, I live in an apartment with North windows. The leaves of my Phal were upright when I got them. A couple days after I got them, my roommate wanted to use them for her graduation party, and took them out and put them in a dimly lit room for 2 days. When I got the orchid back, the leaves were wilted (they look like they are broken) and one of the leaves has a crack down the middle. Refer the attached picture.



What should I do?

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Hi. I just bought a Phal last week, I live in an apartment with North windows. The leaves of my Phal were upright when I got them. A couple days after I got them, my roommate wanted to use them for her graduation party, and took them out and put them in a dimly lit room for 2 days. When I got the orchid back, the leaves were wilted (they look like they are broken) and one of the leaves has a crack down the middle. Refer the attached picture.




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hmm ... your pix aren't showing - but I wouldn't think that two days in dim light could cause what you have described.
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Hi. I just bought a Phal last week, I live in an apartment with North windows. The leaves of my Phal were upright when I got them. A couple days after I got them, my roommate wanted to use them for her graduation party, and took them out and put them in a dimly lit room for 2 days. When I got the orchid back, the leaves were wilted (they look like they are broken) and one of the leaves has a crack down the middle. Refer the attached picture.




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Hello there! I'm not able to view your pics either. I would agree with white rabbit, doesn't sound like a light problem. Have you taken a look at the roots yet?

Also, you would probably get more responses if you start your own thread. Some members may not see that you have added a question to this thread.
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