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[RandomGemini]

Originally Posted by Paphy

Hi RG - When you say 'net pots' are you referring to the plastic pots that are like a cage, you know with square cutouts all around? and, I'm assuming for you're using sphag that goes over the leca, correct?



I hear veitchiana is a notorious slower grower within Masdie genus. As has been brought up, they (as well as many others) tend to require 15-20 degree difference in day/night temp to stimulate blooming. In my readings I see veitch's like a brighter light as well, not so much higher temp, just brighter.

I am and yes, you are correct. I'm growing my veitchiana in the same light that I grow my cattleyas and dendrobiums. The Maui Lollipop also thrives in this light. For now, I want a lot of leaf growth from my veitchiana, not too worried about blooms. I'll be happy if the leaf count doubles over the next year or two.

[wintergirl]

When I get black spots on my masdie leaves it is generally from too much moisture in the leaf area, lack of air. When I lost leaves due to heat they just dropped leaves really fast.

[No-Pro-mwa]

I have a little fan blowing at them. I didn't have this at first but have had it since this summer. Also if the wind is blowing in the right direction it will blow in the cracks of the window. May be the fog on the leaves is to much?

[wintergirl]

Originally Posted by No-Pro-mwa

I have a little fan blowing at them. I didn't have this at first but have had it since this summer. Also if the wind is blowing in the right direction it will blow in the cracks of the window. May be the fog on the leaves is to much?

Could be, I try to keep the moisture off the leaves.

[estación seca]

No-Pro-mwa, I think that is a spectacular assortment, especially on a windowsill in Wyoming!

[Paphy]

Originally Posted by No-Pro-mwa

See the dark tips on the leaves, do you think this is humidity or heat?

When I got those dark spots on my amabilis it was a result of a seller/buyer miscommunication. Only took a few hours of direct sun all at once and it stressed the plant. If I had more gradual intro to the sun it might have been ok, but I'm gun shy now and simply have plant 70% shaded sun, it loves it! Anyway, to me the spots speak of heat. But that's only because I've yet had personal experience with humidity problems.. which I'm sure at some point I'll get that lesson too. lol

Nice blooms No-Pro!

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Originally Posted by No-Pro-mwa

May be the fog on the leaves is to much?

Most of these Masdies live in the cloud forest so they will have times plenty of moisture on leaves but I think because they love a lot of air movement the wet condition constantly gets dried off. If they never get dried off then I can see it could be too moist environment for what makes them happy. Your fan should help a lot.

[Paphy]

Originally Posted by Subrosa

M. veitchiana is the species that got me interested in the genus, but I quickly figured out I'd cook it. Then I saw M. Cheryl Shohan 'Red Hot Mama' at a bargain price on EBay and took a shot. It thrived all summer and bloomed this past January. I don't know how to post a link on my phone, but you can see a pic in the December entry to my Bloom of the Month 2015 thread. Sadly the pic got mistakenly deleted from my phone.

Subrosa that is a large bloom! Beautiful color. I can't quite tell, is the spike coming from the plant in leca? Do you know the parents of this hybrid? .. assuming one of them is vietchiana.. so, coccinea that's crossed with perhaps with another species??

Here is the 'Red Hot Mama' bloom pic Subrosa is referring to.

[Subrosa]

The plant is indeed in leca, on the far right. The parentage as I understand it is (xanthina x veitchiana) x 'Red Wing'. 'Red Wing' is coccinea x anfracta.

[Paphy]

Originally Posted by Subrosa

The plant is indeed in leca, on the far right. The parentage as I understand it is (xanthina x veitchiana) x 'Red Wing'. 'Red Wing' is coccinea x anfracta.

Thanks for that info Subrosa. If you know, which of these species behind your plant would you say is typical January blooming (winter) ?

[No-Pro-mwa]

Originally Posted by estación seca

No-Pro-mwa, I think that is a spectacular assortment, especially on a windowsill in Wyoming!

Thanks so much. I was kind of proud of myself until they started to get really bad looking. Which was last summer when the sun would shine through the window in the early morning. So I started putting them out on the porch at night then several times I found them blown over and my poor Dracuvallia out of it's pot. It really is no wonder they look this way. A couple of them don't look to bad however.

Thanks paphy. I am really just thinking they are still trying to come back from the trauma as there leaves are never wet. The fog just is over them and they all needed a re-pot. At present they are all getting new growth and the Red Wing is spiking and also my ignea which I have never bloomed before and it was one of the first ones I got. If they don't blast. I had several buds on the Dracuvallia but I only got the one to open, all the rest blasted and all my last ones on my hirtzii did to.