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kindrag23 · #21 10-09-2013, 09:33 AM

No I was so mad I chunked them. I think they may have had some kind of hormone placed on them because of the way they were growing rootless keikis. Off these huge roots

isurus79 · #22 10-09-2013, 01:49 PM

Those baby flasklings looked pretty good to me, so I think the vendor didn't do anything wrong! It just takes a lot of practice to get this type of growing right. I noticed on my flasklings that if there is any media left in the nooks and crannies of the leaves they would rot.

I also kept my little ones too wet for too long and that caused a lot of them to rot. Once they were out of the flask about a month, I realized they need to dry pretty thoroughly between waterings. Its a fine line to walk in terms of keeping moisture levels correct as they age. I'm specifically talking about my Catt. violacea and Epi. conopseum seedlings, both Laeliinae that will have similar requirements to your own plants.

And don't throw away the plants that are still alive!! Those are the ones that you likely grew well and they are the ones that will tell you how to be successful in the future!

Silje · #23 10-09-2013, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by isurus79

Those baby flasklings looked pretty good to me, so I think the vendor didn't do anything wrong! It just takes a lot of practice to get this type of growing right. I noticed on my flasklings that if there is any media left in the nooks and crannies of the leaves they would rot.

I also kept my little ones too wet for too long and that caused a lot of them to rot. Once they were out of the flask about a month, I realized they need to dry pretty thoroughly between waterings. Its a fine line to walk in terms of keeping moisture levels correct as they age. I'm specifically talking about my Catt. violacea and Epi. conopseum seedlings, both Laeliinae that will have similar requirements to your own plants.

And don't throw away the plants that are still alive!! Those are the ones that you likely grew well and they are the ones that will tell you how to be successful in the future!

I agree with Isurus here. I'm in a trial and error phase with both sowing, re-plating and transplanting and I've got to say that most of the fatalities have been my own doings so far. The flasks I've received have generally been really good and the problems normally start when I decide to take them out of that protected bubble and introduce them to the real world.

My philosophy is to just keep trying! Read all the recipes and step-by step tutorials that you can find and just try again and again.

If you want to play around with sowing, just go crazy on the NoID phals and everything else you've got flowering to make seed pods with seeds you can afford to lose and try out the different methods and growth mediums available.

And the same basically goes for transplanting. It's so easy to dampen these tiny things off...and it just takes one small mistake for them to just curl up and die sometimes.

I think we've all been there, and although I've got nothing to show for myself yet, I still believe that I CAN do this. I WILL be able to do this. I just have to kill some more seedlings first.

My Green Pets · #24 10-09-2013, 05:59 PM

I feel like you may have jumped the gun! Well don't do anything with these last guys until you check with orchid board!

kindrag23 · #25 10-09-2013, 06:05 PM

lol, I still have my flask chids, just the ones in the second batch with absolutely zero roots that were growing off of the largest roots somehow are the ones I chunked I still have 10-15 of them left, one really large sized one, and all of my original flask chids are still rocking along. so no major loss there.

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Originally Posted by isurus79

Those baby flasklings looked pretty good to me, so I think the vendor didn't do anything wrong! It just takes a lot of practice to get this type of growing right. I noticed on my flasklings that if there is any media left in the nooks and crannies of the leaves they would rot.

I also kept my little ones too wet for too long and that caused a lot of them to rot. Once they were out of the flask about a month, I realized they need to dry pretty thoroughly between waterings. Its a fine line to walk in terms of keeping moisture levels correct as they age. I'm specifically talking about my Catt. violacea and Epi. conopseum seedlings, both Laeliinae that will have similar requirements to your own plants.

And don't throw away the plants that are still alive!! Those are the ones that you likely grew well and they are the ones that will tell you how to be successful in the future!

Oh and I de flasked not flasked these lol, I am so not up to the level of flasking yet. lol.

Orchidsoutdoors · #26 10-11-2013, 07:32 AM

My first rule with deflasking: preparation. I sterilise the pots thoroughly with bleach, and steam the bark for 20 minutes. My second rule: harden quickly. It will depend on the species, but getting them into drier conditions as soon as possible is key, as the single greatest threat to deflasked orchids is rot. My experience is mostly with Cattleya and Laelia, but if you get it right you can deflask a flask with 40 seedlings and not lose a single plant.

kindrag23 · #27 10-11-2013, 01:16 PM

@OrchidsOutdoors my first set I have around 50 still and sent 15-20 to somebody else already. Its this second batch im battling with.

isurus79 · #28 10-11-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Orchidsoutdoors

My second rule: harden quickly. It will depend on the species, but getting them into drier conditions as soon as possible is key, as the single greatest threat to deflasked orchids is rot. My experience is mostly with Cattleya and Laelia, but if you get it right you can deflask a flask with 40 seedlings and not lose a single plant.

I think this is where I went wrong when first deflasking. Getting those guys used to the real world as quickly as possible really is key to keeping them alive!

kindrag23 · #29 10-11-2013, 02:30 PM

Well all of mine are now out and in the windowsill under my catasetums

kindrag23 · #30 10-14-2013, 10:07 PM

Here is a shot of my biggest flask chids from the first batch. I may be able to have 1 usable one from the second batch. A compot I sent to my friend in antirely different zone though in a zone much more conducive to orchid growing probably said his are rotting as well....but here is my first batch and they are growing ans shooting roots!