Advice for winterizing this grow setup
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Advice for winterizing this grow setup
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Advice for winterizing this grow setup Members Advice for winterizing this grow setup Advice for winterizing this grow setup Today's PostsAdvice for winterizing this grow setup Advice for winterizing this grow setup Advice for winterizing this grow setup
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-29-2022, 01:26 PM
Dalachin Dalachin is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2022
Zone: 5a
Location: Ithaca, ny
Posts: 530
Advice for winterizing this grow setup Female
Default Advice for winterizing this grow setup

Hi all,

So I'm looking for advice for winterizing my grow setup.

Previously I was growing on a drafty kitchen windowsill where some of my phals suffered from cold damage last winter. I'd like to prevent that situation with this winter, so a big step was moving almost all of my plants to two shelves of this unit in a spare room. The windows face east, and are supplemented by two LED grow strips per shelf. Right now there is a big Lasco fan in the room, and it is pretty far from the AC unit, so temps are high 70s to low 80s during the day, and low 70s at night.

I grow mostly Phals... hybrids and species. There are a couple of Bellina hybrids and some of the larger phal hybrids, and species include speciosa, hieroglyphical, luddemaniana, pulchra, modesta, schilleriana and sanderiana and a few others. Most would probably prefer being in the low 80s. A few oncidiums, Paphs, Angraecums, and Prags. The cooler-loving species (some of the Phrags, the Phal japonica maybe) probably won't be on the shelves, they'll probably stay on a nice cool windowsill. Nothing is mounted and I don't have a dramatic amount of air roots hanging around. I generally pot them in clear slotted pots that I put in a loose outer pot to increase humidity around the roots.

My biggest concerns for the winter are warmth and humidity. I'm in central NY, so all winter we are reliant on baseboard heat and suffer from pretty low humidity. I'm not sure how warm this room is going to be in the winter, but it is a converted porch, so definitely not the warmest room in the house. I have a small army of seedling heat mats, and I plan to add more. Other things I am considering:

--What do you think about enclosing the sides of the shelving unit with clear plastic sheeting? I've seen some people do that online. Maybe add a few small fans for circulation. With the seedling heat mats and old flourescent fixtures turned on, this might keep the temps 10 or more degrees above the house temps and retain some humidity?

--Maybe add a space heater? It seems like this might be pretty inefficient, and add to the dryness problem, so I'm not sure about this unless it turns out to be very cool in there.

--Add a humidifier? I haven't had good luck with them in the past... the unit I bought last winter died after a month and was a pain to keep refilling.

--More light? I guess one can always use more light... . I don't have a light meter, so it is hard to gage how much these lights are putting out. There might actually be more natural light in the winter when the trees lose their leaves, but it won't be for enough hours of the day.
Attached Thumbnails
Advice for winterizing this grow setup-img_4380-jpg   Advice for winterizing this grow setup-img_4379-jpg   Advice for winterizing this grow setup-img_4378-jpg   Advice for winterizing this grow setup-img_4376-jpg  
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes snowbell liked this post
  #2  
Old 08-29-2022, 01:36 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,534
Advice for winterizing this grow setup Male
Default

Some people enclose shelving units to make it easier to keep heat and humidity up. Others don't.

As for light, most of your plants are low-light plants. Your current lights will probably provide enough moment to moment illumination. However, they will do much better with longer days than your natural winter light, so consider setting your timer so they get 10-12 hour days. Some people put the lights on early in the morning and late at night, and some people prefer extending the day at one end or the other, based on their daily routine.

An ultrasonic humidifier blowing towards your plants works well. There are many solutions people have for expanding the reservoir. I have seen them here on Orchid Board in the past. Use the Search function in the top maroon menu to find these posts.

As for heating, seedling heat mats under the plants work well.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-29-2022, 02:48 PM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 15,119
Advice for winterizing this grow setup Male
Default

I highly recommend a humidity tent, as it traps both heat and humidity, making your plants far more "comfortable".

__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
FIRSTRAYS.COM
Try Kelpak - you won't be sorry!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-29-2022, 05:46 PM
Dimples Dimples is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2022
Zone: 8b
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 921
Advice for winterizing this grow setup
Default

My Levoit LV600HH humidifier is going on 2 or 3 years old and still works great and can easily humidify our 1,100sqft home. It has a built in humidistat so you can set it and forget it. The tank is at least a gallon, maybe slightly larger, and we only fill it once a day (at most) but our humidity usually starts around 20-30%. It has 3 levels of output and both cool and warm mist options. You can run both together to maximize the output when it’s REALLY dry. It has a few other features that we don’t use so I can’t remember what they are, but it’s a fabulous buy even if you have to pay full price.

A diy alternative is a pond fogger + large storage tote for the water reservoir. I’ve seen some older threads on here about building one.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Relemitty liked this post
  #5  
Old 08-30-2022, 12:17 PM
Dusty Ol' Man's Avatar
Dusty Ol' Man Dusty Ol' Man is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2020
Zone: 9b
Location: Lake Charles, Louisiana
Age: 70
Posts: 1,475
Default

Here is the thread mentioned. Post #38 is a great place to start.
My Basement Greenhouse
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-30-2022, 01:21 PM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 15,119
Advice for winterizing this grow setup Male
Default

An advantage of the humidity tent is that water in pots and trays is plenty to keep the RH up, without added devices, and the heat from daytime lighting creates a nice diurnal fluctuation.

Before I moved to NC, my plants were in such a setup, in a dehumidified, unheated basement with about a 15-20% RH. Inside the tent only dropped below 75% when I had the flap open.
__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
FIRSTRAYS.COM
Try Kelpak - you won't be sorry!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-30-2022, 03:36 PM
Dimples Dimples is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2022
Zone: 8b
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 921
Advice for winterizing this grow setup
Default

The tents are great for the reasons you suggested. I just can’t stand living in a home that’s that dry for months. My lips are chapping just from thinking about it! Haha
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-31-2022, 06:46 PM
Relemitty Relemitty is offline
Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Norman Oklahoma
Posts: 89
Advice for winterizing this grow setup Male
Default

Hi Dimples

Thanks for recommending the Levoit LV600HH humidifier.
Amazon has it at a good price.
I'm on the edge of the Great Plains where the humidity can be 25% RH on a typical summer day and the aerial roots on my Catt is telling me that is too low.
Saving pennies for it now.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-31-2022, 06:58 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,534
Advice for winterizing this grow setup Male
Default

The humidity will be much higher inside a grow tent filled with plants than outside, even without a humidifier.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-31-2022, 08:03 PM
Dalachin Dalachin is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2022
Zone: 5a
Location: Ithaca, ny
Posts: 530
Advice for winterizing this grow setup Female
Default

Hmmm, maybe I’ll look into one of those tents. I have one of those standard wire shelving units, it looks like it would fit, maybe just a little big. Would be good to stabilize temp and humidity in one purchase.

Last edited by Dalachin; 08-31-2022 at 08:07 PM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
add, light, low, unit, winter


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New setup plant advice VERN-O Terrarium Gardening 13 08-08-2018 11:45 AM
Review/Results using IKEA VÄXER LED plant grow bulb PAR30 E26 Manu Growing Under Lights 10 12-04-2017 08:54 AM
My B little stars...and new grow space setup KokeshiHappyGreen Beginner Discussion 3 07-14-2017 04:49 PM
In need of advice mattryan Beginner Discussion 5 11-06-2010 02:48 PM
How I grow Masdevallia's Bolero Pleurothallis Alliance 9 05-25-2010 08:39 AM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:04 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.