Santa Barbara orchid estate question???

[TOMMYMIAMI]

Hi everyone
I have never ordered from these guys, but I do recall asking them once when interested and they said that due to the plant being shipped to Florida it must be in 30 days quarantine (the same goes for Louisiana). I want to get Nageliella purpurea and they do have it, but it makes no sense for me when other California sellers (Andy's etc) can ship immediately. So, first, if someone knows the reason, I would love to understand this quarantine, and second, I would love to know about some other seller I can get one, without waiting maybe 30 days? Many thanks to any tip and answer!

[WhiteRabbit]

I know another member in Florida orders from them, and just waits the month because she loves their plants ...

I don't know the reason for the quarantine - maybe someone else can answer...

[reliablefool]

It has something to do with Florida's import regulations and many other growers should be following this but don't and don't seem to suffer for it. SBOE just seems to be one that complies with this regulation. Florida must not be too strict when it comes to enforcing this since so many growers get around it. This is my understanding at least.

[TOMMYMIAMI]

Thanks everyone, it is just hard to believe for me that all other sellers ship to Florida without any issues, and without anyone ever complain that the plants would not come. I was more thinking about them maybe not having proper certifications to ship as others do. It does not make much sense for me that all other sellers, including Hawaii, California etc would ship immediately when it would be against the import laws, I mean, plants from Hawaii must go through custom inspection and agricultural inspection in Hawaii and they do see they are shipped to Florida, so I am pretty sure these packages would be stopped or seized if there would have to be Quarantine or am I wrong? No complains, I mean, I will not wait, I will try to get the plant elsewhere, but I am really so curious why this is the only company I know about with this:-))))

[FSUOrchids]

Yeah I don't know about that either, but it's too bad they do that since it deterred me from possibly buying from them.

[TOMMYMIAMI]

Exactly, I was trying to Google some info, I can't find any restrictions for shipping orchids to Florida within the USA, and I really think since all my Hawaii packages have the stamps from USDA there just can not be any quarantine required. I do think maybe there are certain permits sellers must have to ship to Florida, and other sellers do have them, but this website. I do see that my sellers have specific requirements for example for shipping to Puerto Rico and Alaska, or Hawaii, which makes me think that if they do request special things for these countries, and there would be some special thing for Florida, they would follow! This is the second time I would order from them, but I am sorry, since the plant is IN SPIKE now, it makes no sense to have it for a month in quarantine and get it after spike is gone when others do ship immediately.

[reliablefool]

The only thing I can think of is that there's a pest in that part of California that Florida is particularly worried about so SBOE is trying to comply since from what I JUST read it doesn't seem like the quarantine is necessary otherwise. Oh well, I live within California so I generally don't have to worry about any of that stuff :P (not that I've purchased from them).

[TOMMYMIAMI]

Many thanks, I got already few answers, supposedly they do claim that unlike other nurseries in California, SBOE is not considered a nursery but a botanical garden. They have to quarantine ALL plants that they send to Florida because they have an issue with brown snail, and Florida requires them to quarantine their plants for one month. Again, this makes no sense much to me, first the difference between shipping from "botanical garden" and not "nursery" difference, secondly why only botanical garden would have quarantine. Someone else wrote something that makes so much more sense, Santa Barbara OE actually does not have a very big supply of orchids by itself. He knows of a few CA growers who actually supply to them! They have to receive payment then purchase from their suppliers, make sure that payment goes through and then wait for the plants only to unpack water, inspect, re pack and then re ship. NOW this makes sense to me much more, but this is only my "brains" who knows. So I am trying to get the info regarding the suppliers and get the plant direct, if possible, from "nursery" if it is soooo complicated to get it from "botanical garden":-))))

[Jayfar]

A lot of information on this site including specifics by state:

National Plant Board - Laws and Regulations

[TOMMYMIAMI]

Originally Posted by Jayfar

A lot of information on this site including specifics by state:

National Plant Board - Laws and Regulations

Great page Jay, however it still seems like this would apply to all shippers, therefor makes still no sense why one website has quarantine and all other sellers not:-) I did not see in brief preview any differences between nursery and botanical garden:-)