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12-23-2021, 09:53 AM
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When they mess up a tag on a plant, you often get a brand new species that is unknown to science or recently described!
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Begs the question of how they get their plants in the first place?
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12-23-2021, 10:05 AM
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Begs the question of how they get their plants in the first place?
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Something I've wondered as well! The plants you'll get in the mail don't appear to be taken from the jungle and appear to be cultured.
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12-23-2021, 12:21 PM
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Begs the question of how they get their plants in the first place?
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When I visited [in 2009, so it's been a while...], there were 2 distinct areas of the sales nursery; in one there were stock plants and divisions thereof, in the other there were benches of plants that looked like they had been wild collected--these were sorted more by general plant type/appearance than anything else. From what I understood, these are legally collected wild plants that are salvaged in advance of agricultural or construction [ie road] projects. They are sorted in the field [ie anything looking like a cattleya goes in the cattleya box, anything looking like a catasetum, catasetum box, and so on]; things that don't look like anything else or are phrags, are kept separate [these are grown separately at the nursery and flowered out so they can be identified], the others are just 'provisionally' tagged as whatever species are commonly found in/around the collection site [and sold as such]
I've talked to a few other nurseries in far-flung places, and this sort of collection by salvage happens in Eastern Africa, other parts of South America & SE Asia as well; while I don't condone poaching plants from the wild, I am in favor of removal of plants which would otherwise be burned or buried.
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12-23-2021, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stonedragonfarms
When I visited [in 2009, so it's been a while...], there were 2 distinct areas of the sales nursery; in one there were stock plants and divisions thereof, in the other there were benches of plants that looked like they had been wild collected--these were sorted more by general plant type/appearance than anything else. From what I understood, these are legally collected wild plants that are salvaged in advance of agricultural or construction [ie road] projects. They are sorted in the field [ie anything looking like a cattleya goes in the cattleya box, anything looking like a catasetum, catasetum box, and so on]; things that don't look like anything else or are phrags, are kept separate [these are grown separately at the nursery and flowered out so they can be identified], the others are just 'provisionally' tagged as whatever species are commonly found in/around the collection site [and sold as such]
I've talked to a few other nurseries in far-flung places, and this sort of collection by salvage happens in Eastern Africa, other parts of South America & SE Asia as well; while I don't condone poaching plants from the wild, I am in favor of removal of plants which would otherwise be burned or buried.
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Ah, this is good to know!
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12-24-2021, 09:06 PM
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Unfortunately, Peruflora took my money and never sent the appropriate plants many years ago. I sent a few emails to them for about a year or so and they never responded, which seems to be a very common occurrence for them when talking to other growers.
I suspect you won't get your money back or plants to make up for missing items in your shipment. It's best to only get plants from them at shows and not to place an order with them. It's too bad because they have some of the coolest plants you'll ever encounter. When they mess up a tag on a plant, you often get a brand new species that is unknown to science or recently described!
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Sorry to hear that. It really is a shame since they have so many "exotic" plants there. I'll keep bugging them. Maybe they'll come to Santa Barbara next year...
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Originally Posted by stonedragonfarms
When I visited [in 2009, so it's been a while...], there were 2 distinct areas of the sales nursery; in one there were stock plants and divisions thereof, in the other there were benches of plants that looked like they had been wild collected--these were sorted more by general plant type/appearance than anything else. From what I understood, these are legally collected wild plants that are salvaged in advance of agricultural or construction [ie road] projects. They are sorted in the field [ie anything looking like a cattleya goes in the cattleya box, anything looking like a catasetum, catasetum box, and so on]; things that don't look like anything else or are phrags, are kept separate [these are grown separately at the nursery and flowered out so they can be identified], the others are just 'provisionally' tagged as whatever species are commonly found in/around the collection site [and sold as such]
I've talked to a few other nurseries in far-flung places, and this sort of collection by salvage happens in Eastern Africa, other parts of South America & SE Asia as well; while I don't condone poaching plants from the wild, I am in favor of removal of plants which would otherwise be burned or buried.
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That is good to know! I'm certainly against reckless collection of (endangered) species but glad they are saving what they can.
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