Oh, Tikva, my HD is the same as yours, some like to lower the prices and at least get what they have in them than there are some like mine and yours that do a zero markdown and no one gets to nurse the sick...sucks :(( ... must step over the line :evil: and go to my local Lowes, at least it will be worthy for the ill....:D Yep, its a stinky when they come without a name, oh ok...lets see .... :scratchhead: no name a NOID alert. Usually HD purchases from the vendors whats in "near bloom" at the time, no matter what it is, but would be nice to get one of those vanda's in a net bag once in a while ... but NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! ... Cheryl <<<< marching right over to Lowes, after I recoup the expense of Oakhill. Making more room ... gosh I love bakers tables. :banana: :banana: