Coerulea hybrids in hot tropical places

[Sak_ikim_lol]

I want to know if growers living in tropical places, hot and more or less at sea level, have success with coerulea hybrids like Pachara Delight, Sansai Blue, Golamco, etc. I mean blue vandas.

I´m having success with big vandas, I think with a lot of sanderiana blood in them, but I´m intrigued if people living in Bangkok, San Juan de Puerto Rico, Manila, Singapur, etc, have those hybrids growing well and rewarding with flowers. I have a Sansai Blue growing fine, but I'm beginning to think that a blue, tessellated vanda will be a challenge that I will have to face it.

I know that some of those hybrids come from tropical countries, but "tropical" has nuances about environments and climates.

THANKS!!!

Mario

[WhiteRabbit]

[AussieVanda]

They do fine here. tend to bloom in the dry season. The only real thing I've noticed (for me anyway) is that my big blue is more susceptible to burn and dehydration so I keep it a tad more protected than others. It has another spike on the go as we speak.

[hanzy08]

Blooming actually corresponds with the growing season because these plants are complex hybrids. Vanda coerulea is one of the parents and the other parent is at least a complex hybrid that has Sanderiana in it. These plants can tolerate a wide range of temperature down from 55f-95f. Given good light, water and fertilizer and they would bloom their heads off! Mine spiked in the summer and the spike grew quite fast. They do not need a winter rest or chilling to initiate a spike. They actually would prefer to be on the warmer side in my experience. I would suggest you try one and see how it goes.

[Bud]

Vanda coerulea is an equatorial orchid specie....it grows outdoors in the Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore where there is no frost and the lowest temperature is 60F yet this orchid plants are also found growing in the forest of India, Burma, China and the Himalayas that have frost and bitter winter temperatures.....
I grow this indoors in winter and outdoors in summer....I follow the Baker's culture and make sure to expose it to colder nights to trigger blooms. This blooms in the late fall to winter.

Yucatan area is excruciatingly hot in the summers and your wet season of monsoon rains brings the lowest temperature at 60F that is enough to trigger blooms for coerulea.
Put it in the cool shade during those hot summers and give it liberal watering and feeding.

[Sak_ikim_lol]

Originally Posted by WhiteRabbit

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Originally Posted by AussieVanda

They do fine here. tend to bloom in the dry season. The only real thing I've noticed (for me anyway) is that my big blue is more susceptible to burn and dehydration so I keep it a tad more protected than others. It has another spike on the go as we speak.

THANKS!!! Great that you have one spiking!!!

You gave me a clue. My Sansai Blue don´t keep its leaves as my other vandas. I think I need to think about more water and less light.

Regards!!

Mario

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Originally Posted by hanzy08

Blooming actually corresponds with the growing season because these plants are complex hybrids. Vanda coerulea is one of the parents and the other parent is at least a complex hybrid that has Sanderiana in it. These plants can tolerate a wide range of temperature down from 55f-95f. Given good light, water and fertilizer and they would bloom their heads off! Mine spiked in the summer and the spike grew quite fast. They do not need a winter rest or chilling to initiate a spike. They actually would prefer to be on the warmer side in my experience. I would suggest you try one and see how it goes.

Thanks for your suggestions and info. My concern is about my Sansai Blue. Everybody say that is a free bloomer and good grower, but mine is Ok, but not as great as my other vandas. And no flowers yet since I have it. I suppose is due the coerulea blood, so I think I must to change to less light and more watering. No prob with watering because is hanging outdoors.

Again thanks!

Mario

---------- Post added at 01:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 PM ----------

Originally Posted by Bud

Vanda coerulea is an equatorial orchid specie....it grows outdoors in the Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore where there is no frost and the lowest temperature is 60F yet this orchid plants are also found growing in the forest of India, Burma, China and the Himalayas that have frost and bitter winter temperatures.....
I grow this indoors in winter and outdoors in summer....I follow the Baker's culture and make sure to expose it to colder nights to trigger blooms. This blooms in the late fall to winter.

Yucatan area is excruciatingly hot in the summers and your wet season of monsoon rains brings the lowest temperature at 60F that is enough to trigger blooms for coerulea.
Put it in the cool shade during those hot summers and give it liberal watering and feeding.

Thanks!!!! Indeed Yucatan is hot in extreme during summer but the temperature doesn't go to 60's during the raining season (May-October) It´s more or less as low as 70º F. We have the low one 60º from December to late February, this is our "winter"

So I think to move my Sansai Blue to a shadier place, maybe with the phals (yes I grow them outdoors under shade cloth with direct full sun from 8-11, they love it!, I have a pink one blooming since last February, three times the spike developing new buds!) and the humidity is higher. Less sun and more watering and humidity.

Thanks for your lines!

Mario

[AussieVanda]

I need to clarify, it is protected in that it gets less 'direct' light than others, it still gets same amount as 'indirect' as others though. If you drop light levels you run the risk of great growth but poor chance of bloom. Mine sits in between other vandas to break of direct light levels. Having said that another blue pakchong blue, gets very good direct light and also in spike. Moral is you need to read plant and adjust accordingly

[Sak_ikim_lol]

Originally Posted by AussieVanda

I need to clarify, it is protected in that it gets less 'direct' light than others, it still gets same amount as 'indirect' as others though. If you drop light levels you run the risk of great growth but poor chance of bloom. Mine sits in between other vandas to break of direct light levels. Having said that another blue pakchong blue, gets very good direct light and also in spike. Moral is you need to read plant and adjust accordingly

OK!!! thank you. Indeed I will check and adjust it.

Mario