manuvadee vs patchara delight

[BradGC]

Hey,
Could someone that has first hand experience in growing both of these vandas please explain the difference to me.
Thanks

[CR7cristiano]

Originally Posted by BradGC

Hey,
Could someone that has first hand experience in growing both of these vandas please explain the difference to me.
Thanks

For starters, they have two different immediate parents. Pachara delight is Karulea x gordon dillon and manuvadee is Ponpimol x coerulea.
They both have coerulea in their backgrounds but V. Manuvadee has a habit of blooming in cooler months; usually christmas time in my part of the woods and on a very erect showy spike. Manuvadee blooms are about 3 inches in size with good growing and can have many flowers on a spike. They have purple/blue tones but leans to the side of a very intense purple.
Pachara Delight has very large and intensely coloured electric blue flowers. Can get up to more than 6 inches on a mature and well grown plant. Tends to flower at a very small size and can flower several times a year in a tropical climate, unlike the Manuvadee that rarely flowers as a small plant and not as often. Also can tolerate intermediate temperatures as well. Spikes are presented nicely away from the foliage; very showy, and tend to develop horizontally or parallel to the leaves.

Really and truly the only similarity between the two are that they have Coerulea in their lineage.

I don't treat mine differently growing them. I just give my pachara delight slightly more exposure to light.

[Chatbud]

Originally Posted by CR7cristiano

For starters, they have two different immediate parents. Pachara delight is Karulea x gordon dillon and manuvadee is Ponpimol x coerulea.
They both have coerulea in their backgrounds but V. Manuvadee has a habit of blooming in cooler months; usually christmas time in my part of the woods and on a very erect showy spike. Manuvadee blooms are about 3 inches in size with good growing and can have many flowers on a spike. They have purple/blue tones but leans to the side of a very intense purple.
Pachara Delight has very large and intensely coloured electric blue flowers. Can get up to more than 6 inches on a mature and well grown plant. Tends to flower at a very small size and can flower several times a year in a tropical climate, unlike the Manuvadee that rarely flowers as a small plant and not as often. Also can tolerate intermediate temperatures as well. Spikes are presented nicely away from the foliage; very showy, and tend to develop horizontally or parallel to the leaves.

Really and truly the only similarity between the two are that they have Coerulea in their lineage.

I don't treat mine differently growing them. I just give my pachara delight slightly more exposure to light.

I believe Pachara Delight's flowers' tone lean more towards purple too. At least mine and several others' are? The colour is electric and very mesmerizing, like you say. Basic cameras (iPhone) cannot capture the true colour of Pachara Delight, as I learnt.

This is my Pachara Delight captured by Samsung S2.



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I believe the electric blue one (and easier to grow and bloom) is Sansai Blue???
Jerry Fischer and Pachara Delight:

OrchidWeb - Vanda Pachara Delight - YouTube

(I believe his camera also could not capture the true colour of Pachara Delight)

Her camera captured the true colour of Pachara Delight (go to 0:44):

Some Orchids in bloom and some strange flower spikes - YouTube

This is Sansai Blue:

VANDA IN A POT: Mystery solved. - YouTube

[CR7cristiano]

Originally Posted by Chatbud

I believe Pachara Delight's flowers' tone lean more towards purple too. At least mine and several others' are? The colour is electric and very mesmerizing, like you say. Basic cameras (iPhone) cannot capture the true colour of Pachara Delight, as I learnt.

This is my Pachara Delight captured by Samsung S2.



---------- Post added at 04:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:38 PM ----------

I believe the electric blue one (and easier to grow and bloom) is Sansai Blue???

Sansai blue is a lighter blue. Of all the "Blue" vanda Pachara delight has the most intense electric blue flowers; almost deep indigo even. Its so rich that the iphone 5 cam cannot even capture what I'm seeing with my own eyes. Cam portrays it more purple; even the cam is colour blind. Here is a bloom on mine that in person is waay more intense.
The flower balks at the camera. It really makes even the best camera lenses look cheap.

[FSUOrchids]

Yeah, one thing that amazes me about Pachara Delight is how the plants tend to be on the smaller side for vandas, but the flowers are very large. They do also bloom at a smaller size in general.

[Joyorchid]

I have a manuvadee that I purchased in may. Still waiting for it bloom. Maybe i should put it out in the cooler nights. Its been getting into the 50's here at night.

[CR7cristiano]

Originally Posted by Joyorchid

I have a manuvadee that I purchased in may. Still waiting for it bloom. Maybe i should put it out in the cooler nights. Its been getting into the 50's here at night.

Cooler nights would benefit indeed. Needs a good drop between day and night temps to stimulate flowering.