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Old 05-08-2013, 11:13 PM
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Ryan,

Can you share your pimped out humidifier details?
Stunning, amazing Vanda !!!!! Congrats
Thanks! sure I can share the details. I should probably make it its own thread but this will have to do.

A lot of it was trial and error and honestly, it still is, but the current set up seems to be working great.

I bought a 40 gallon NEW trashcan and set it on a bench (I sometimes use the water via siphon for my plants that need RO water). I drilled a hole for a float switch as high up as I could. This float switch is connected to the product line of my reverse osmosis unit (RO) and I run the RO unit until the can is full-- the float switch keeps it from overflowing when full. I took the lid of the can and drilled two holes large enough to fit tubing (corrugated tubing used for dryer exhaust-- it is flexible and can elongate or contract). One of the tubes is fitted with a 4inch fan, the other is simply the "exhaust" tube of the air the fan on the OTHER tube is pushing into the can. Inside the can floats an ultrasonic mister-- mine has five heads, but you can get them with one up to 9 (9 is the most I've ever seen). Turn that on and it'll generate copious amounts of mist that is then mixed with air from outside by the 4inch fan and then that is forced out the exhaust tubing and effectively humidifying the grow space.

The first issue I ran into was that it was so effective, I got it to rain in my grow area, which is inside my house-- not good. Its in the basement so no damage was done but my light fixtures were soaked-- I kept them off during this period of monsoon! To fix this I slowed the fan down-- no more rain.

The second issue I ran into was that the FULL can would be depleted within a week-- if I left the house for a week or more, my plants would suffer the dry air of colorado. I could leave my RO unit all the time and the float switch would prevent it from over flowing and would keep the trash can full all the time, however, that is extremely inefficient for the RO unit and would cause unnecessary wear.

Third issue-- when the lights are out, the temp slowly falls and the relaitve humidity (the ability for the air to hold water at a specific temp) would converge, making it very humid at night. However, once the lights come on, it heats up and the RH is divergent and it would be too dry.

I was able to solve all three issues with one solution-- humidistat! I bought this wonderful mechanism that allows me to set the MAX humidity. Once the humidity limit is reached, it will shut down the fan. If it falls below it, it turns the fan on. I can set it from 10 to 90% RH. I set mine at 80%-- my hygrometer measures the air with that setting between 70-75% (neither mechanism is calibrated to any known standard so I have to "best guess" it).

I have fans running 24/7 in my grow space and one fan is next to the humidifier and its running draws a small amount of mist all the time, but the 4inch fan will pump out the humid air when the humidistat calls for it.

Because the controller will shut the fan off at max RH, the amount of time it runs at night is minimal. During the day it'll run roughly half the time. Therefore the 40 gallon can will last almost two weeks for me. Because RH is dependent on TEMP, the night time humidity is 70% and the DAY TIME humidity is ALSO 70%, but the actual amount of vapor held in the air is more or less depending on the temp (think of dew at night, when the sun goes down, it gets "humid" or "wet" even though the amount of water in the air hasn't actually changed, the change in temp is what causes the vapor to go from a gas to a liquid and everything in between...dew).

Here's the breakdown of cost (sticker shock!):

Trashcan with lid: $40
4inch single-speed fan: $10
Tubing: $5
Ultrasonic mister: $100
humidistat: $50

Total: $205

May seem like a lot but large ultrasonic humidifier is that or even more and wont run as reliably. My humidistat is also located AWAY from the humidifer, and sit in front of the main circulation fan, thus is gets a good sampling of the air at all times.

As you can see... it's worked wonderfully.

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Amazing! Great growing considering your dry and non-tropical climate. I have my first Vanda and I too dunk it in a 5 gallon pail every few days.
Thanks! And yeah, the occasional dunk is about all it takes to make these guys happy in my set up.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:20 PM
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No I got this plant from Goodwin's out of Leesburg, FL, whilst visiting my inlaws. They live in this place called "The Villages," which is an enormous retirement community. I get a little crazy down there because I am active and want to go out and do things and I can't because I'm not a resident there and so I LEAVE the community in search of orchids. LOL

The flower count thing is interesting. I was hoping for more but I like what I see, so if that is the extent of it, I'm ok with that, but I'll do my best to get them to grow more!!!!! i don't know how old this plant is.
It looks to be at least 10+ years. I can't wait to see your future blooms!
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:34 PM
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Nice!

What is this growing setup for your vanda, Ryan?

I dried my blue vanda to death.
Keeping it watered enough was just too much hassel for me. no vanda for me again.

I tried to take a shower with it everyday but hanging in the sunny window dried it up really fast.

Anyway, I do like to look at them though of course.
I saw three different vandas hanging near the ceiling of a store in flower distric today and one of them was white with heavy blue spots. I really had to force my shopping urge down.
I know all too well the difficulty of getting these guys enough water.

I grow under lights-- a mix of T8s, T12s (these are slowly dying and not being replaced by new T12s) and T5s. I will not replace any new lights with 8s or 12s but only 5s (or LEDs if the cost is ever in my range!).

I grow in the basement where, in general, I can control the temps and photo period with relative ease. I also have a misting system by my own design set up to blast out some beneficial water right at the very beginning of the photo period-- it turns on for onlya minute and only long enough to drench the vandaceous plants' roots. The floor gets wet but its concrete is is kept clean so nothing gross grows.

The entire set up is enclosed with heavy plastic and has a vent that opens to the center of the basement for fresh air exchange (don't want mildew or musty smell). I also recycled a door we removed from the house that was replaced and use that as the doorway.

Yes... it's a little overboard, but I have the space and will to do it! lol

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It looks to be at least 10+ years. I can't wait to see your future blooms!
Wow! That old! I would have never guessed based on how fast it grows for me.
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Old 05-08-2013, 11:44 PM
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Thanks for sharing!

This is when I wish I had a "house". I would do lots of stuff. lol
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:25 AM
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I'd love to see pictures of your orchid room and growing area sometime. It sounds like quite the set up!
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Old 05-09-2013, 12:38 AM
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I know all too well the difficulty of getting these guys enough water.

I grow under lights-- a mix of T8s, T12s (these are slowly dying and not being replaced by new T12s) and T5s. I will not replace any new lights with 8s or 12s but only 5s (or LEDs if the cost is ever in my range!).

I grow in the basement where, in general, I can control the temps and photo period with relative ease. I also have a misting system by my own design set up to blast out some beneficial water right at the very beginning of the photo period-- it turns on for onlya minute and only long enough to drench the vandaceous plants' roots. The floor gets wet but its concrete is is kept clean so nothing gross grows.

The entire set up is enclosed with heavy plastic and has a vent that opens to the center of the basement for fresh air exchange (don't want mildew or musty smell). I also recycled a door we removed from the house that was replaced and use that as the doorway.

Yes... it's a little overboard, but I have the space and will to do it! lol

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Wow! That old! I would have never guessed based on how fast it grows for me.
Believe it or not, 10+ years is not very old at all. A maturing plant for sure!
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:55 PM
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What an incredible blue color! Cool/Intermediate grower?
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:16 PM
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What an incredible blue color! Cool/Intermediate grower?
I think it's a warm grower.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:31 AM
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Its so lovely! I hope my vanda does as well as yours here in our high desert.
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Old 05-31-2013, 02:08 PM
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Its so lovely! I hope my vanda does as well as yours here in our high desert.
Thx! Where are you?
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