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03-20-2021, 11:53 PM
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Hi! I live in oceanside, does your canda miss joaquim tolerate 40F+ nights? Thank you
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03-21-2021, 12:22 AM
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Hi chef marc,
this thread you have dug up is 9 years old. People are rarely active on these forums that long.
Welcome to OB. Vanda's are not considered the easiest of orchids, if you are worried about temperatures I would recommend you consider a Cattleya, they are generally more cold tolerant.
Do your research though, something like a cattleya maxima or hardyana can handle 40+F no problem but something like C luteola or C Dowiana or one of its hybrids generally does not like the cold.
There is far more info regarding Cattleya than there is Vanda's. I know some can tolerate the cold better than others but I've come to experiment and try what works, some show signs of stress from cold where others won't.
Vanda Coerulea or Vanda Denisoniana should be able to handle those temperatures if you do really want a vanda. The denisoniana can be tricky to find but there are lots of hydrids of denisoniana which should be good candidates. I have 2 Denisoniana hybrids a vanda Sukontharat and vanda Batram. The Batram can handle those temps, my Sukontharat could not even though they both have V denisoniana as a parent.
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03-21-2021, 12:39 AM
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Hi! I live in oceanside, does your canda miss joaquim tolerate 40F+ nights? Thank you
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Welcome to the Orchid Board!
I grew up in Orange County just north of you. I would suggest you grow your Miss Joaquin in a pot, and bring it in when nights will be below 60 degrees F. But it will do spectacularly for you all summer in full sun.
If you are space limited, use a 1, 2 or 5 gallon pot. When it gets too big, cut off the top, with a few roots on the top piece, and plant it into the same pot, so now you have two pieces in there. You can keep doing this and you will soon have a very nice plant.
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03-21-2021, 01:34 AM
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First, Welcome!
I'm just a bit north of you, also on the coast... V. (Papioionanthe) Miss Joaquim is marginal in our climate. I do know a few local people (old-time growers) who have grown it. I have V. (Papilionanthe) teres, one of the parents, it grows outside, grows slowly. If you have a block wall (or wall of the house), those absorb heat during the day, and radiate it at night... if you grow it in a spot like that, with strong light, you may be quite successful with it. Our coastal climate permits a lot of pushing the boundaries by finding those microclimates.
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03-21-2021, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Orchidtinkerer
Hi chef marc,
this thread you have dug up is 9 years old. People are rarely active on these forums that long.
Welcome to OB. Vanda's are not considered the easiest of orchids, if you are worried about temperatures I would recommend you consider a Cattleya, they are generally more cold tolerant.
Do your research though, something like a cattleya maxima or hardyana can handle 40+F no problem but something like C luteola or C Dowiana or one of its hybrids generally does not like the cold.
There is far more info regarding Cattleya than there is Vanda's. I know some can tolerate the cold better than others but I've come to experiment and try what works, some show signs of stress from cold where others won't.
Vanda Coerulea or Vanda Denisoniana should be able to handle those temperatures if you do really want a vanda. The denisoniana can be tricky to find but there are lots of hydrids of denisoniana which should be good candidates. I have 2 Denisoniana hybrids a vanda Sukontharat and vanda Batram. The Batram can handle those temps, my Sukontharat could not even though they both have V denisoniana as a parent.
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Thank you so much! I didnt even realized it was 9yrs old... i do have vandas i take em out during the day and in at night... but vanda miss joaquim im not so sure, i couldnt find much about temp regulation and how it fairs in south California, i have a baby one that was doin alright but i wanted to see more growth, its on S/H with a tree fern glued in the middle, i got them as cuttings and now have grown roots to attach to the fern log... o have another vanda that fairs well.in cold too, neofinetia falcata.
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03-21-2021, 05:20 PM
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ah, ok it is hard to tell the background or plants a new member has so I thought I'd recommend Cattleya's as they are faster growing and to me more tolerant but maybe that is why I like them more at the moment as my Vanda's are soo slow.
The Miss Joaquim looks like the slowest of the slow. I just looked up a picture of this national orchid of singapore with pencil shaped leaves and as tall as a big man. So many moons and above average light levels will be needed to get this one to grow into something worthwhile although you might have the light levels in California to do so but in Singapore it rarely drops below 75F
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03-21-2021, 07:57 PM
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True, but still, thank you so much! I do have couple cattleyas, trinea, but I'm venturing more into dendrobiums and vandas because of my "need," i use the flowers to decorate cakes and raise the plants for the joy of it. I have some phalaenopsis, encyvola, miltonia and oncidiums and schromburkgia
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