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04-30-2008, 01:34 AM
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Hi Ocelaris,
Thanks for sharing! I always enjoy reading your vanda posts! So please keep it coming. .
It is so encouraging to see all your vanda thriving in the vase.
I am waiting for my Princess Mikasa blue & pink to come in the post. Have you tried growing other colour vandas apart from the blue/ purple ones?
BTW, What is the difference between your day and night temperature?
Thanks,
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I have 8 vandas as of today, (got one in the mail today!) and I have only seen the Princess Mikasa blue and pink bloom... but I've only had these for about 6 months. I have had orchids on and off for about 10 years, and basically just got back into them 8 months ago. So I haven't gone a full year. The Asocenda I got today is Ascda Hatos Sunshine:
And it has 2 spikes! Very nice plant. Unfortunately, or fortunately, it has an extensive root system, which precludes me from using the glass vase method. Some roots are >2 feet (60cm) long. So I'm going to have to manually dunk it in a 5 gallon bucket until I am able to get my pump... I've come to the conclusion after some discussions that I can only use the glass vase method the way I have for so long, and ultimately, for a full sized Vanda I will need to change my watering habits. For the little vandas/ascda it's not a big deal, but when you start with roots which are so long, they don't take kindly to bending into all sorts of contortions... We'll see if they do as well as the glass vase method which has worked so well for me so far. I'll continue to use the glass vase method (basically dunking) for most of the established and smaller plants, as the dunking is particularly good when roots are constrained... I think in the Grove book he mentions one year he tried to basically tie all the roots around the pot and keep them neatly ordered, but he ended up losing a lot of plants and has let them free dangle ever since... I still say the glass vase method works extremely well, just when you're doing it on a large scale the extra work makes it unweildly.
Day/Night temps are only 5-10 degrees Farenheit... so not much at all. It's pretty much always room temp or a little bit above that, so I keep the house around 73 or so, during the day it goes up to 80 or so.
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04-30-2008, 07:16 AM
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It's beautiful and well named. I reminds one of sunshine. It gives your spirit a boost. Blue is my favorite color but this one is soooo cheerful.
What is that jungle of roots behind it?
I agree with you about some not being suitable for the glass vase method. I have a couple which are too long to fit into a vase and one is such a mass of thick roots that they would never go through the opening in a vase. I may try another one in a vase but most of mine are in wood baskets, with a little lava rock, and the roots hang free. I just use a hose and give them a good drench every morning. I also fertillize, through the hose, every time I water them.
I have only one in a vase. It was quite pale, and a bit ragged, when it arrived but it has greened up and looks proud to be in the vase. Tomorrow I will be going to an Orchid sale, 50 percent off, and possible get one or two more.
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05-17-2008, 12:05 PM
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I found this subject to be very interesting. I have a Trichoglottis brachiata mounted on tree fern that just wasn't doing well for me. I decided to try out the vase idea with it. I placed the mount into the vase with the bottom of the tree fern touching the water and the two longest roots actually sitting in the water. It has now been about three weeks and this is what's happening!:
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05-17-2008, 12:40 PM
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WOW! looks like she likes having her feet wet!
the subject 'vandas in vases ' is becoming 'intrestinger '& 'intrestinger' ! Dorothy those are really lovely healthy roots growing!! well done good idea to try
Thanks for the idea, I feel like trying it with my Ascocentrum Miniatum
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05-18-2008, 01:14 PM
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Vandas in vases
Teli -
I'm new to vanda growing, but nowhere I've been (Florida mostly) have I ever seen them in vases. Do you keep them in water all the time? Or do you just fill the vases up every day, let them sit for 15 minutes or so and then pour all the water out??? What a mind blower it was to read your post.
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05-19-2008, 03:21 PM
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Hello everyone
I have some vandas, not so happy with the bareroot hanging around technique, I got a glass vase and the mouth (about 3ish inches) will not take all the healthy roots since some of them are going everywhere, should I just brake them for the greater good or get a larger vase, I'd appreciate any recs....
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05-19-2008, 04:23 PM
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Hello everyone
I have some vandas, not so happy with the bareroot hanging around technique, I got a glass vase and the mouth (about 3ish inches) will not take all the healthy roots since some of them are going everywhere, should I just brake them for the greater good or get a larger vase, I'd appreciate any recs....
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My suggestion is to soak the roots in water for about 15-30 minutes. They will become quite flexible and then try again to place them in the vase.
Your Vanda has spent a lot of energy to make those roots, so breaking/cutting them off makes even me wince ( ).
Try and remove any old/dead roots first if you do have to cut back on them. Should even this not work out, then cut as little of the new/living roots as possible...also use horticultural grade sulphur or something of similar usage to stop any rot/fungus from attacking the cut roots. Wait a week or two before you place in the vase (otherwise you will most likely get a rot/fungus on them).
Others with more info/experience will most probably reply to your question also.
Hope this helps?!
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05-19-2008, 06:14 PM
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Hello everyone :.., I got a glass vase and the mouth (about 3ish inches) good or get a larger vase, I'd appreciate any recs....
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Hi Cookiemonster, I'd try & get a vase thats all open at the top ..
depends on the size of your roots but "open vases" exist ..example:- Ik**, do some transparent long rectangular glass & square ones, florists etc now selll high/long glass vases.....
I had a vanda in a vase a couple years ago & killed it by keeping on forgetting it soaking in its bath..
I now have an Ascocentrum Miniatum- 6 weeks -
(IOt is bare root attached to a piece of bamboo stick..and which I at first kept in a vase , but have now tried putting it in "bottle" & I soak it most days for 30 mins...
Good luck ! & keep us posted whatever you decide to do
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05-19-2008, 06:20 PM
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my vanda is in a basket and the roots have fused themselves to the wood. I have found a large vase that has a mouth that fits the basket snugly. I have placed some spanish moss on the bottom and keep it moist. So far, so good, some new root growth. My question is, should i take it out of the basket and find a smaller vase to increase humidity?
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05-19-2008, 06:38 PM
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I have found a bunch of very inexpensive vases of various shapes and sized at 2 local craft type stores such as Mi....l's (I guess we aren't supposed to mention commercial business names). I don't know what you have in Phoenix. One of the entries on this thread had the plant in a pitcher which had a very wide mouth although not too deep. The roots needed to be able to fold up if possible. I agree, as hard as it is to promote root growth I wouldn't cut any off. In time, some may be rejected by the plant and can be thinned.
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