V. Sidhi Gold x Ascocentrum curvifolium (?) - Orchid Board

mollycart1 · #1 07-13-2009, 11:10 AM

This is my acquisition from a local nursery yesterday. I just had to have it.

Roy · #2 07-13-2009, 12:41 PM

Very pretty flower but I'm doubtful about the name.
I'll have to investigate further.

cneos · #3 07-13-2009, 05:16 PM

I doubt the name also. What you probably have is Ascocentrum Sidhi Gold (miniatum x Sagarik Gold) as one parent that has been crossed with Ascentrum curvifolium. That cross has not yet been registered at RHS.
Still a very pretty flower - are there more than one inflorescence? Overall size of plant? Number of flowers per inflorescence?

Zoi2 · #4 07-13-2009, 05:32 PM

Wow, what an eyecatcher, it's beautiful!
Joann

nenella · #5 07-13-2009, 05:58 PM

Beautiful eye catching colours! as Joann says. Can you post a photo of the whole plant please? Thanks in advance.

mollycart1 · #6 07-13-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy

Very pretty flower but I'm doubtful about the name.
I'll have to investigate further.

I appreciate it if you could find a really name for this one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cneos

I doubt the name also. What you probably have is Ascocentrum Sidhi Gold (miniatum x Sagarik Gold) as one parent that has been crossed with Ascentrum curvifolium. That cross has not yet been registered at RHS.
Still a very pretty flower - are there more than one inflorescence? Overall size of plant? Number of flowers per inflorescence?

Only one inflorescence right now with 11 flower opened and 9 buds. The plat itself is about a foot long and a foot wide. The flower is approx 1.5" wide. Does it help?

Thank you.

Roy · #7 07-13-2009, 09:54 PM

This plant has he appearance of having Vanda luzonica as parent. More work to do.

mollycart1 · #8 07-13-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nenella

Beautiful eye catching colours! as Joann says. Can you post a photo of the whole plant please? Thanks in advance.

Here you go!

cneos · #9 07-13-2009, 11:13 PM

The genus Vanda and Ascocentrum are often intertwined because both are members of the Vanda alliance. I think this is what happened here so what we have is Ascocentrum Sidhi Gold crossed with Ascocentrum curvifolium.

The flower size and the flower count supports this guess, but color is not what you'd expect from these parents. With a parent such as Sidhi Gold, (miniatum x Sagarik Gold) you'd expect its progeny to have an orange-yellow color. Asctm. curvifolium is generally red to red-orange shades. Although the white-pink base and magenta markings resemble Vanda luzonica color, the flower shape is not characteristic of luzonica at all.

Ascocentrum species usually are compact growers, throw lots of keikis (forming clumps) and the inflorescences and flower size are diminutive (compared to Vanda) but ascocentrum are very floriferous.

Perhaps Naoki can ask the nursery where she bought the plant to confirm the name (label) and ask if there are other plants in their inventory with the same name / label to compare? A photo of the whole plant will help too, as well as tell where on the inflorescence the first flower appears?

I love these intrigues!

cneos · #10 07-13-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mollycart1

Here you go!

The photo dispels my whole theory ... what you most likely have is an ascocenda, hybrid of Vanda and ascocentrum. Ascocendas are generally bred to make smaller versions of the Vanda parent. Plant size is usually more compact (Vandas can grow 10+ feet tall); flower size may be smaller but ascentrum influence gives more flowers per inflorescence.

I think tags got mixed up at the nursery -- check that out as in previous post to see if other plants bearing same label look like your plant.