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Old 09-10-2008, 08:28 AM
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I grow a few aerides species and just wanted to learn how some of you might be growing your plants. Specifically, do you give them different care depending on the season? I know that many (most?) grow in monsoon-prone areas of the world, where they withstand hot and wet growing seasons followed by a relatively cool and dry dormant season. But how many of you try to duplicate this--and if you do attempt to follow nature's lead, how dry and cool do you let your plants get? Thanks!

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Old 09-10-2008, 10:04 AM
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I grow my aerides in a green house that I heat as best I can. The temp range is from 8c at the worst to 35c at the hottest. I grow them in mesh basket with coarse bark. I water them every 2 or 3 days in the winter and if possible every day in summer. I feed them lightly every 2nd watering in summer & once a week in winter. All but one are hanging close to the roof and are kept in about 60% shade. These plants I treat like Paphs, Vandas etc. There are continuous growers & have no bulb to store food. Good air movement and reasonable humidity is required. Here is a very recent pic I took.

This is a couple in flower.

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Old 09-10-2008, 11:39 AM
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Aerides krabiensis, A. multiflora and A. rosea (fieldingii) should have somewhat reduced watering during the winter. All other species should be grown warm and wet the entire year (provided they have healthy roots). In general water once a day and a second time durng really hot periods. Once established with multiple growths it is hard to overwater them.

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Old 09-10-2008, 01:04 PM
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Thanks, guys, for your feedback.

Roy, do you have A. odorata and/or A. quinquevulnera? If so, when (and how often) do they generally flower? Thank you for including the pictures. It's always beneficial to see how other growers raise their plants.

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Old 09-10-2008, 10:19 PM
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Thanks, guys, for your feedback.

Roy, do you have A. odorata and/or A. quinquevulnera? If so, when (and how often) do they generally flower? Thank you for including the pictures. It's always beneficial to see how other growers raise their plants.

Steve
Steve, I have A. quinquev' v Purpureum which is a smaller grower then the white/spotted var and I flower it every year. I also have an Odorata that has been flowering size for the last 4 years and its still yet to bloom, not sure what I am doing wrong, the plant is very good ( pictured in group, far right ).
I respect the comments of others but the comment about apart from the 3 Aer's mentioned, the others should be kept warm & wet I have found the this is definitely NOT the case. I & others with these plants have found to keep them in those conditions causes rot in the plant. I grow 7 different Aerides in the same culture with great success, apart from the Odorata not flowering.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:44 PM
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Hey Roy,

My comments are for plants grown under much brighter light levels than yours and as I said - once they have multiple growths! Yours are single growth plants under rather low light levels. So one needs to pull back on the watering accordingly. However, odds are that your A. odorata hasn't flowered because it wants more light. The finest plants of this species are on exposed trunks of street trees in Malaysia and Indonesia where they get full morning and afternoon sun. There the form clumps 15 ft. tall and 10-12 ft wide. If your humidity allows, you might put the plants outside for the summer.

I grew them best in equal parts of medium bark and equal sized hardwood charcoal in terra cotta pots in a single pane glass greenhouse in New England. Escept on the very greyest days of winter, the plants were thoroughly watered every day and loved it.

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Old 09-11-2008, 11:48 AM
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I am growing mine in fairly high light; they've been acclimated to handle direct sunlight from 7 A.M. to around 2 P.M. during the summer growing period when they're outside, and our summer temperatures and humidity levels are consistently high. They're also growing in clay pots with no potting medium (see picture of one of them below) and get completely immersed each morning for about half an hour in a bucket of water so that roots and pot are completely saturated before I head off to work. So maybe I would be able to get away with watering them fairly often during the winter? They spend the winters in a southwest-facing sunroom that gets decent light. I'm just trying to determine whether or not seasonal differences in the amounts of light and water/fertilizer are what trigger the plants to flower--since my A. odorata (like Roy's) also is rather stubborn and hasn't flowered for me during the last few years.

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Old 09-11-2008, 12:38 PM
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Hey Steve,

Your plant is very happy and the leaves are just the right shade of green. Do not change a thing!

However, your plant is still rather small. Aerides odorata will flower on a very small plant if you stress it - higher light and(or) a prolonged dry period (both of which alter the carbon to nitrogen ratio in the plant). I don't recommend this. Instead just keep growing it and when it is about twice the current size you should start getting pups at the base. Once it gets to that size it should flower regularly withough any need to modify conditions. I don't think it needs a stimulus to flowers - stress simply over rides everything and makes it flower.

Give it high nitrogen fertilizer and keep pushing vegetative growth for the next 1-2 years. Once the plant gets larger each shoot should have 2-4 inflorescences at a time.

I found the odorata complex - and especially A. lawrenciae - needs to grow well for a couple of years and it suddenly bursts into vigor - like turning on a light switch.

Like I said, your plant is happy and don't change a thing.

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Where do you find your pots? They look great for growing with all the holes. Marilyn
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Old 09-11-2008, 12:57 PM
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Eric, I have a Aer lawrenceae which is nearly 4 foot tall and flowers with at least 2 spike every year. It is only this year producing an offshoot. This multi growth plant to flower stuff might be applicable to some growers but is definitely not general. I personally have found that if the plant is healthy and growing well it will flower off a mature size plant and every year. As with many orchids, the Maturity of the plant is the key word.
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