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04-20-2022, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by estación seca
Roberta, it might be a lot warmer where your Vandas are situated at night than it is out in the open where the temperatures are measured.
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Actually, my Vandas are pretty much in the open - under shadecloth but in the outer patio area. But the Vandas that I grow in that area are either species, or hybrids containing species, that can tolerate cool temperatures... I just get away with a few more degrees of cold than stats indicate. I did look up Bangkok Sunset, that one would be pretty marginal in winter. 25% V. flabellata which is pretty cold-tolerant, but the rest is Rhy coelestis and Aer. houlletiana, which are definite warm-growers. So that particular one should get protection. (One can get away with a bit more against the house or a block wall which absorb heat by day and radiate it by night... Some people living near me even get away with Phals in such locations... but if it were my plant i'd bring it in)
IOSPE is up for me, so it may be a routing issue where you live. I have specific sites go down on my spectrum connection pretty often, end up having to reboot my modem. I check it by disconnecting my phone from the router (so I'm on the Verizon phone network independent of the Spectrum network. 90% of the time the problem is Spectrum not the website,...) Worth the inquiry...
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04-20-2022, 06:21 PM
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I can't reach orchidspecies.com from my home CenturyLink nor from my mobile phone ATT networks.
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04-20-2022, 06:38 PM
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I can't reach orchidspecies.com from my home CenturyLink nor from my mobile phone ATT networks.
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Weird... it's not the IOSPE site I don't think, since I can access it fully. It has to be routing of some sort. But clearly over a bigger area than just one provider. Ouch. And of course if you try to call tech support, they'll just point at the other guy.
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What is even weirder... while I can get to site and navigate it (so I know that I'm not getting it from cache) when I try to ping it, I get timeouts and tracert just basically gets out of my network (Charter) and then times out at all the other steps. So something is definitely funky about routing... I get an IP when I try to ping it (what my local DNS server has in its databsse) and put that on the address line I get "unknown" so it's a shared IP. I don't know enough about networks to make sense of it.
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04-20-2022, 06:43 PM
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ping: orchidspecies.com: Name or service unknown
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04-20-2022, 06:46 PM
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So mine times out (knows where it is but can't find it ) and yours doesn't have it at all...
What happens if you ping 209.237.150.20 ?
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04-20-2022, 07:02 PM
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~$ ping 209.237.150.20
PING 209.237.150.20 (209.237.150.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
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It's been several minutes. My OS may not have a time out for PING that doesn't complete. I hit Ctrl-C to terminate:
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~$ ping 209.237.150.20
PING 209.237.150.20 (209.237.150.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C --- 209.237.150.20 ping statistics ---
275 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 842ms
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Edit: I'm not going to bother Jay - he probably knows about it and is busy with it.
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04-20-2022, 07:06 PM
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Hosed-up routing table someplace... will eventually resolve, highly annoying. (Sorry for hijacking thread... )
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04-20-2022, 08:02 PM
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Thank you Roberta and ES.
Less water during the winter is a definite, something I do with all my plants.
At the moment they seem to be quite dry when I come to water them, pots are very light with dry bark on top and around the sides, visible roots on the outside are white before getting water.
They are in net pots with small bark, hanging at the front of the shelving where they get constant breezes.
Other than my Sarcs which seem to handle the winter outside with no problem I only have a few Vanda types.
Aerides leeana
Aerides oderata
Aerides houlletiana
Aerides quinquevulnera
Vanda Pachara Delight
Vanda Siriporn Pink
Rhynchostylis coelestis 'Blue'
Perreiraara Bangkok Sunset
Given that the above named plants are all small I might just bring them inside for this Winter, no sense in pushing the boundaries while they are still so small.
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04-20-2022, 08:11 PM
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Given that the above named plants are all small I might just bring them inside for this Winter, no sense in pushing the boundaries while they are still so small.
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Also, those Vandaceous plants are mostly warm-growers. Sarcochilus and Neofinetia are cold-tolerant as groups, but those others that you have aren't... definitely bring them in...species from higher elevations (or higher latitudes) and their hybrids can be quite cold tolerant, but it's case by case. (I have several Renanthera that are fine with cold, but there are some that are tropical, so each plant becomes a research project...)
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04-21-2022, 06:14 AM
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Will do, tomorrow they are moving to the dining room.
Thank you.
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