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Old 08-01-2018, 10:04 AM
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I am always excited while anticipating a new plants arrival and today I have three on the way. I love Satomi’s mailing list, I get overwhelmed sometimes just looking at all the gorgeous plants.

Today Neofinetia Kurokongou, Tenjin and Kirinmaru will join my collection. My shelves are full, these three will be my last for awhile. They are all bean leaf plants, will fit nicely with the others. There is a top shelf on this stand, need to add some sort of light and I’ll have more space but for now I’m full.

The Kurokongou and Tenjin are two plants I’ve found little information on, anyone have either of these two? The Kirinmaru is one I’m familiar with and I’ve wanted one for some time. I will post pictures when they arrive, so excited!
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Kurokongo was originally found as a mutation among the seedlings of an Amami plant. It looks similar to Tamakongo but it gets strong anthocyanin pigmentation in comparison. If you grow it in high light, it will become strongly pigmented with black streaks and spotting.


Tenjin, I personally have not heard about before, but a bit of research on the Japanese sources seems to say that it is the result of a cross between two bean leaf varieties, Junihitoe and Tenzan. I think it's supposed to have green root and green stem.
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:18 PM
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They arrived this afternoon and they are beautiful. The Tenjin has four growths plus a baby, the Kirinmaru has four growths. These two plants are really nice, the Kirinmaru I purchased without seeing a picture as Satomi did not have one shown. I expected a single growth so was really pleased with the small clump.

The Kurokongou is gorgeous! It is a nice full clump, very healthy plant.

Here are pictures beginning with Tenjin, Kirinmaru then Kurokongou
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:33 PM
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Kurokongo was originally found as a mutation among the seedlings of an Amami plant. It looks similar to Tamakongo but it gets strong anthocyanin pigmentation in comparison. If you grow it in high light, it will become strongly pigmented with black streaks and spotting.


Tenjin, I personally have not heard about before, but a bit of research on the Japanese sources seems to say that it is the result of a cross between two bean leaf varieties, Junihitoe and Tenzan. I think it's supposed to have green root and green stem.
Hakumin, Thank you for looking these up for me. The Tenjin is small, similar in size to my Tenzan. It has a bit of a lean to its growth as a Junihitoe? Maybe? It has green root tips and stem.

Satomi recently had a Kurokongou on eBay and I wish I had taken a screenshot of her description. I believe it mentioned the mutation of an Amami plant crossed with a Tamakongo. Not sure on that so thank you.

New World Orchids list the Kurokongou though it is out of stock currently. They state it is very similar to Kaioumaru but with less peacock. It also states mud root tips.

Your help is always appreciated, thanks!
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Sometimes there is conflicting information about the origins of some varieties out there, and it can get a bit confusing to find the truth. Sometimes even two published books from the same publisher will state conflicting information about the origin of a variety.

In any case, here's the Korean Neo association's profile on Kurokongo:

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"Bean leaf Amami fuuran seedling mutation. While the shape is similar to Tamakongo, it is slightly smaller, and produces a lot of anthocyanin pigmentation, to the extent of turning black if grown in high light. This variety goes by the name Kokki as well as Kurokongo. Flowers face upwards. Leaves are wide and deep green, with narrow spacing between leaves. Mud stem, mud root, tsuke is a mix of straight and wavy."

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Kurokongou what a beautiful neo.
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Sometimes there is conflicting information about the origins of some varieties out there, and it can get a bit confusing to find the truth. Sometimes even two published books from the same publisher will state conflicting information about the origin of a variety.

In any case, here's the Korean Neo association's profile on Kurokongo:

흑휘(黑輝) 흑금강(黑金剛)

It says:

"Bean leaf Amami fuuran seedling mutation. While the shape is similar to Tamakongo, it is slightly smaller, and produces a lot of anthocyanin pigmentation, to the extent of turning black if grown in high light. This variety goes by the name Kokki as well as Kurokongo. Flowers face upwards. Leaves are wide and deep green, with narrow spacing between leaves. Mud stem, mud root, tsuke is a mix of straight and wavy."
Oh nice! Thanks for the link. I did see NWO shows the tsuke as wave and the pictures of their plant has a lot of anthocyanin pigmentation, very dark. I like it!

It is a huge help having you here to educate those of us in need, lol. It may seem reckless to purchase plants when you are unable to find available information but when buying from Satomi I’m pretty confident. I did email her asking for info on the Tenjin.

When looking through her email list there is no time for asking questions. I should have asked after I ordered it. It would be helpful if the list included a bit of information. Thanks again! Much appreciated.

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Kurokongou what a beautiful neo.
Thank you! I certainly am happy with it. Honestly, I’ve not been unhappy with any purchases from Satomi.

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Always sad to run out of room.
I hesitated adding these three for that very reason. Today my husband said “so buy another stand”. I’m on it!
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Here are pictures beginning with Tenjin, Kirinmaru then Kurokongou
Pattywack,

Satomi could learn something from you. Displaying clearly the plant labels in your pictures is thoughtful and I might add obvious thing to do.

I often avoid spending time looking at her email listings because having to click on a picture to get an id often results in ending up at the beginning of the listing when trying to get back to the original display.
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Pattywack,

Satomi could learn something from you. Displaying clearly the plant labels in your pictures is thoughtful and I might add obvious thing to do.

I often avoid spending time looking at her email listings because having to click on a picture to get an id often results in ending up at the beginning of the listing when trying to get back to the original display.
Shoreguy,

Thank you! There are so many Neos a tag is an absolute must for me. I have to admit Satomi’s process annoys me as well! I honestly do not understand why it is set up as two separate lists/links, pictures and prices. There are many plants on the price list that are not shown in her photos and if I am interested and email her, the plant is often times already sold. And there is the Yahoo pop up to deal with each time you access the photos! Yikes! Many times when going back to the photo list I am taken back to months past lists, very awkward.

I have taken to quickly searching the photos first looking for bean leaf plants and then making my own list, with plant names and numbers. I then check the price list while holding my breath.

I do appreciate being able to see the actual plant, most times. The Kirinmaru was not shown and I didn’t ask for a picture this time. Nice surprise and I added it after I had placed my order and then gone back through the price list. I wish Satomi would make this process easier. Having to rush before plants are sold is difficult enough.

Thank you!

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