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Old 05-13-2017, 10:51 PM
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There are several different formulations labeled as Bayer Advanced Rose & Flower. I've not used any of them, but I've used Bayer products safely with orchids. I'm not sure I like the idea of a combination product which includes fertilizer, but that's just me. Anyway, somewhere on the label it should list on what plants it can be safely applied. And if it doesn't there's probably an 800- number on the label you can call.
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Old 05-13-2017, 11:14 PM
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There are several different formulations labeled as Bayer Advanced Rose & Flower. I've not used any of them, but I've used Bayer products safely with orchids. I'm not sure I like the idea of a combination product which includes fertilizer, but that's just me. Anyway, somewhere on the label it should list on what plants it can be safely applied. And if it doesn't there's probably an 800- number on the label you can call.
Fertilizer? This product is an insect killer and it list: roses, flowers, vegetable and flower gardens, shrubs, ground covers, lawns and around home.

You confused me with the fertilizer comment but sometimes I'm easily confused. I was in hopes someone here had used this product, I have no problem returning it, I just want to get busy treating these nasty bugs.
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Old 05-13-2017, 11:30 PM
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Cyflithrin is a pyrethroid....not a true systemic insecticide. It's really more of a contact kill but it should do the trick for mealy.

You might want to pick up the Bayer Mite and insect...with imidacloprid. That one is a true systemic and packs a bigger punch. You could treat with the one you got and then pick up the other one and hit the plants again in a week-10 days.

If you ever see scale...go right for the imidacloprid first.

If your windows have been open...the beasties can come in from outside. They can even travel in on you. 'Tis the season and your best bet is to do what you've been doing...catching it early...and have supplies on hand to take speedy action to keep it from spreading.
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Old 05-13-2017, 11:41 PM
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I haven't used it but it seems safer than many of the other products that are used as pesticides.

Here is some information on Cyfluthrin.
Cyfluthrin - Wikipedia

Here is some more:
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http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pub...o/cyflthrn.pdf

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Good luck! I hope they will all be history soon!
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Katrina, thank you so much for your reply. After purchasing this product I was afraid to use it on Neofinetia. The package said it kills mealy bugs and it was the only Bayer product our local (small town) Walmart store had, I'm going to Lowes tomorrow! I've not seen any more mealy bugs and I don't want to either. They need to be gone.

I guess I've been lucky as I've not had an infestation of mealy bugs or scale, I've no experience with insecticide on house plants. I grow indoors in windows and under lights, terrariums. My Neofinetia are grown under lights with a fan blowing and the windows in that room have not been open yet though other windows in our home have been. Seems if it's warm enough to open the windows, it's pouring rain!

Thanks again for your reply, I know you have many many plants and a load of experience. I do appreciate your input!

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I haven't used it but it seems safer than many of the other products that are used as pesticides.

Here is some information on Cyfluthrin.
Cyfluthrin - Wikipedia

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http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/emon/pub...o/cyflthrn.pdf

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Good luck! I hope they will all be history soon!
Thank you Leafmite! I hope they will be history soon myself and I plan to blast them.

One thing I did see recommend from St. Augustine (my maiden name) minus the Saint, was to use the Bayer product as a drench in the medium. This would be a great help when treating Neofinetia in their moss mounds rather than un-mounding them. Does that sound feasible/affective?
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Fertilizer? This product is an insect killer and it list: roses, flowers, vegetable and flower gardens, shrubs, ground covers, lawns and around home.

You confused me with the fertilizer comment but sometimes I'm easily confused. I was in hopes someone here had used this product, I have no problem returning it, I just want to get busy treating these nasty bugs.
Sorry. As I said, a LOT of Bayer products are labeled as Bayer Advanced Rose & Flower, I just didn't go far enough. I agree that the product labeled for insects AND mites is your better bet. The product you have will only kill the bugs it actually touches.
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Pesticide companies sometimes suffer under different regulations and laws in different US States, and other countries. A product sold under a specific name, with a recognizable label and packaging, may not be formulated the same in different States or countries. Identically formulated products may be sold under different names, with different labels and packaging, in different States and countries. And, the formulation of a product may change over time, while always having the same, recognizable label and packaging.

What matters is what is in the product. You have to read the fine print on the label. Every pesticide product sold in the US shows, in detail, what it contains.

A similar situation holds with over-the-counter pharmaceutical products sold in the US without a physician's prescription. Formulations change over time, especially if ingredients in the old formulation are withdrawn from the market. The packaging and name stay the same, and the consumer who doesn't read the ingredients never knows.

It is against the law in California to recommend a product for killing bugs that are not specifically listed on the label, on crops that are not specifically listed on the label. This is not the case in Arizona, nor some other States. People speaking to plant clubs in California usually know this, and refrain from mentioning products in their talks. I'm in Arizona as I write this.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:20 AM
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If the product says it can be used on roses, then you are safe to use it on most orchids. There are some orchids, like many masdies, that are highly sensitive to any insecticide treatments...but with most you'll be fine with anything that is safe for roses.

Count your blessings you've never had to deal with scale! In my opinion, it's the worst of the bunch.
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Old 05-14-2017, 08:02 AM
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Probably the new generation of insecticides..
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Old 05-14-2017, 08:09 AM
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Not sure if it exists in US under this name: Calypso (Bayer).
That's what I use with great success.
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