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09-24-2015, 09:53 PM
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Name protocol...
Another package arrived today, bought a phal for Mom and picked up a neo for me from Hausermann Orchids.
The description said it was from the Amami Island, the tag says Neofinetia Falcata.
Orchids By Hausermann: Neofinetia falcata
Picture of one wild looking neo. One root is 11" long.
Can I say it's from Amami Island, or is his forever name Crazy Root Guy? (Going to get a Cymbidium pot and let him do his thing.)
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09-24-2015, 10:31 PM
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Judging from the tag, it is a species, Neofinetia falcate, so that is its name. But you can say where it is from to anyone interested. It is not a hybrid but a species and therefore it doesn't have a name with a capital letter.
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09-24-2015, 10:52 PM
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Silken, thank you for straightening that out for me.
His name, to me, will be Neofinetia falcate 'Crazy Roots Guy.'
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09-24-2015, 10:59 PM
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Silken, thank you for straightening that out for me.
His name, to me, will be Neofinetia falcate 'Crazy Roots Guy.'
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No problem. And if it wins an AOS award, you can make the 'Crazy Roots Guy' an official part of its name
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09-25-2015, 09:03 AM
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Neofinetia falcate will often have another name as well because there are so many varieties/cultivars arround that the other names indicate if it's a specific one of those. However Neofinetia falcate is still the species name and that's what you have.
I would guess your tag indicates it was grown from seed rather than made as a clone/division from a named cultivar (the xSib indicates it was made from two Neofinetia falcate crossed together).
As Silken says if you were to get it awarded you could choose a name for it, then any clones/divisions of that would carry your choice of name.
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09-25-2015, 12:14 PM
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Neofinetia falcata grows in Japan, Korea and probably also in nearby China. There are many named clones, which are recognized for leaf type, root tip color, leaf base pattern, variegation, etc.
Amami Island plants are usually larger than the majority of plants. It is sometimes called a variety, and sometimes called a form (or forma).
Lastly, the &*%#* taxonomists have moved this plant into the Vanda genus. To date, other than the RHS, I have not seen anyone observing this (and I don't either).
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09-25-2015, 12:28 PM
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Looks like a nice plant!
I bought my first one from Hausermann's many years ago. The problem is, once it blooms, you will likely end up wanting a few more.
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09-25-2015, 02:21 PM
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Looks like a nice plant!
I bought my first one from Hausermann's many years ago. The problem is, once it blooms, you will likely end up wanting a few more.
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I think their foliage is addicting too
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09-25-2015, 04:11 PM
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No problem. And if it wins an AOS award, you can make the 'Crazy Roots Guy' an official part of its name
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That sounds like something I would do. Of course 'Crazy Roots Guy' would be in Japanese with appropriate characters after the name.
---------- Post added at 01:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:21 PM ----------
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Originally Posted by RosieC
Neofinetia falcate will often have another name as well because there are so many varieties/cultivars arround that the other names indicate if it's a specific one of those. However Neofinetia falcate is still the species name and that's what you have.
I would guess your tag indicates it was grown from seed rather than made as a clone/division from a named cultivar (the xSib indicates it was made from two Neofinetia falcate crossed together).
As Silken says if you were to get it awarded you could choose a name for it, then any clones/divisions of that would carry your choice of name.
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Thanks for telling me he's grown from seed. Like the idea because I think no two siblings are alike.
Visions of a hand carved Cymbidium pot and Crazy Roots Guy wearing a purple ribbon are dancing in my head. All his little progenies are looking up at him in adoration.
Seriously though, it's worth a try...
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Neofinetia falcata grows in Japan, Korea and probably also in nearby China. There are many named clones, which are recognized for leaf type, root tip color, leaf base pattern, variegation, etc.
Amami Island plants are usually larger than the majority of plants. It is sometimes called a variety, and sometimes called a form (or forma).
Lastly, the &*%#* taxonomists have moved this plant into the Vanda genus. To date, other than the RHS, I have not seen anyone observing this (and I don't either).
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Interesting information. Took another look at him and he has green root tips, the leaf base pattern is hard to describe but the crescent tsuk is dark green and the leaf color coming out is a lighter green. Like it!
Taxonomists can say what they like, and we can say what we like too.
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Looks like a nice plant!
I bought my first one from Hausermann's many years ago. The problem is, once it blooms, you will likely end up wanting a few more.
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You warning has arrived too late. Already have three (two Neo Samurai and a Neostylist Pinky Starburst). Found out they are easy to take care of and don't take up much space. And they're cute!
Haven't had them long enough to bloom. Sooo looking forward to next spring!
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I think their foliage is addicting too
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Oh yeah! Each one is unique in it's own way. So many different types, too little .
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09-26-2015, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Yazz
Another package arrived today, bought a phal for Mom and picked up a neo for me from Hausermann Orchids.
The description said it was from the Amami Island, the tag says Neofinetia Falcata.
Can I say it's from Amami Island, or is his forever name Crazy Root Guy? (Going to get a Cymbidium pot and let him do his thing.)
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Yazz, Neofinetia falcat a is a species originating from Japan, China and Korea. next to the varieties there are several localities, plants that come from a known locality in the wild. The addition to the species name "Amami" just means that the clone comes from Amami island in Japan. General specifics for this locality are the larger growths and leaf length and larger flowers than the standard Japanese form. It's a sturdy and easy grower and it can be grown from seed, mericlone or division.
Remember it needs a cooling down period in order to get it to flower in spring or early summer, different from most hybrids with N. falcata that can flower at any time.
On a side note I also saw you mentioned you had Neo "samurai". samurai is part of an English translation on the naming of the species in Japan. The "Fukiran" meaning rich and noble orchid, In history kept and cherished by the samurai, hens the name still often used "samurai orchid". It's not a name of a variety
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