Crossing- which would probably work the best?

[HenrikAndersson]

Im thinking about making a cross!

I have the following crosses in mind:

Neo f. X Leptotes bicolor
Neo f. X Angraecum sesquipedale*
Neo f. X Paraphalaenopsis laycockii

Whick one would probably work and which one would not? Any ideas?

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Sorry for bad spelling - tiredness!

[PaphMadMan]

The Neofinetia crosses with Angraecum and Paraphalaenopsis have a chance of working. Those plants are in the same tribe, distant cousins at least. When I get home I can look up if similar crosses have actually worked. If you want to try, take the pollen from the larger flowers to put on the Neo. Pollen from small flowers often can't grow a long enough pollen tube to reach the eggs in the larger flower.

Neofinetia and Leptotes - if you can get that one to work they will have to re-think the entire classification of the orchid family.

[PaphMadMan]

Additional information:

Neofinetia falcata has not been crossed with Paraphalaenopsis laycockii, but it has been crossed with Paraphalaenopsis serpentilingua (Parafinetia Crownfox Twinkle). There is also a complex hybrid (Sweetara Elica) in which Neofinetia falcata and Paraphalaenopsis laycockii both contribute. That cross should be possible.

Neofinetia falcata has not been crossed with Angraecum sesquipedale, but it has been crossed with Angraecum scottianum (Neograecum Connie Rolke). That cross could be possible, but probably not easy.

And as I assumed, Neofinetia has not been crossed with Leptotes or any other member of the Cattleya alliance. There is no reason to think that cross is even remotely possible.

Of your choices, I think the Angraecum cross would be the most interesting, but the Paraphalaenopsis cross may be easier. They are more closely related, in the same subtribe, and that kind of cross is usually fairly easy. Angraecum is in a different subtribe.

[HenrikAndersson]

Thank you for info!

I will get it to work woth neo and paraphalaenopsis!
I will buy a youngplant of the paraphalaenopsis laycockii, it will take about a year before its blooming size, but when it does bloom i will do it! And as thanks for your info and help i will already reserve one for you if you can pay shipping! and thr plant totally free!

Later i will also get it to work with angraecum. Maybe i can third-hand cross it with neo x paraphalaenopsis?

I also wonder if i will have the roghts to name the new cross?

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Originally Posted by HenrikAndersson

Thank you for info!

I will get it to work woth neo and paraphalaenopsis!
I will buy a youngplant of the paraphalaenopsis laycockii, it will take about a year before its blooming size, but when it does bloom i will do it! And as thanks for your info and help i will already reserve one for you if you can pay shipping! and thr plant totally free!

Later i will also get it to work with angraecum. Maybe i can third-hand cross it with neo x paraphalaenopsis?

I also wonder if i will have the roghts to name the new cross?

I will try both way around with pollen to increace chanses of seed pod!

[Fairorchids]

Almost anything within the Vandaceous group should work. However, pollen from small plants often can't grow long enough to get through on larger flowers.

Odds of Neo x Leptotes working are too remote to be calculated. In particular since one is monopodial, and the other sympodial.

However, if you have enough flowers to work with, it can't hurt to try.

[PaphMadMan]

Originally Posted by HenrikAndersson

I also wonder if i will have the roghts to name the new cross?

For any cross you make, you do have the right to register it, if no one else has registered it before you.

Within certain limitations you can choose any name you want at that time.

[HenrikAndersson]

Originally Posted by PaphMadMan

For any cross you make, you do have the right to register it, if no one else has registered it before you.

Within certain limitations you can choose any name you want at that time.

Im gonna name the angraecum cross "mossion imposible" haha!

And i'd have to come up with a nice name for para x neo!

[Ray]

Originally Posted by Fairorchids

...pollen from small plants often can't grow long enough to get through on larger flowers.

That's what I always thought, but I recently heard Alan Koch of Gold Country Orchids say just the opposite - because the diameter of the pollen tubes from large flowers are too big to successfully penetrate the ovary of a small flower.

[PaphMadMan]

Originally Posted by Ray

That's what I always thought, but I recently heard Alan Koch of Gold Country Orchids say just the opposite - because the diameter of the pollen tubes from large flowers are too big to successfully penetrate the ovary of a small flower.

Size matters, in more than one way I suppose. There may be some crosses that are virtually impossible either way based on relative length and wide of pollen tubes and columns/ovaries.

[orchidsarefun]

Originally Posted by Ray

That's what I always thought, but I recently heard Alan Koch of Gold Country Orchids say just the opposite - because the diameter of the pollen tubes from large flowers are too big to successfully penetrate the ovary of a small flower.

I have a practical example - I crossed an equestris as pollen parent with a large flowered harlequin. There is thread on that. On the other hand I have never been able to successfully achieve the reverse situation- large to small- and I have tried on numerous occasions.

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