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07-18-2014, 04:04 PM
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Hmm... interesting. So just taking a wild stab at the logic behind this phenomenon, it sounds as if it might be a group of genetically differentiated chimeric cells which are the cause. Assuming this is the case, then this same mechanism can sometimes be the cause of varying degrees of variegation in plant leaves, as well as oddly differentiated colors in blooms of some examples.
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There's an article from Plant Physiology Magazine that describes mutant neofinetia flowers including the three spurred variety. I don't think it quite explains why it happens, but it's still an interesting read. (The 'sam-gak-san' they mention is a manjushage, and the 'ok-hyang-ro' is a Tamakouro)
Mutant Flower Morphologies in the Wind Orchid, a Novel Orchid Model Species
Also, peloria may explain this type of mutation. It happens in other species of plants and it's also an interesting thing to read up about.
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07-18-2014, 04:48 PM
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Congrats Matt that is a wonderful Neo. Mine is sending out a Keiki. Unreal....enjoy these Neos.
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07-18-2014, 04:52 PM
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Hakumin! You are FABULOUS! Your work in putting all of these plants together is super! Unfortunately, now I want all those other plants! LOL!
I am going to have to install a special Neofinetia house if I do that...
AnnonYMouse...brn thumbs, trdyl, JMNYC....I could not believe it when the auction ended and I was the high bidder. It felt like I won the lottery.
Thanks to every one for contributing to this thread. With hakumin's info and all of your comments regarding this Manjushage, I wish it was in a separate thread. This data is really very helpful
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07-18-2014, 05:36 PM
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Matt,
Congrats with your new addition. Hope Kristen can sort out her paperwork soon so mine will arrive too. Your disease is getting to the point of being lethal. Lol!
I hope to get the first draft of my Neo-Base ready somewhere in august and includes all the info I could find anywhere.
Hakumin,
As far as I found out Benikanzashi and Hanakanzashi are two different varieties but the differences are never cited. NWO has them listed as separate varieties.
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07-18-2014, 05:39 PM
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AnnonYMouse...brn thumbs, trdyl, JMNYC....I could not believe it when the auction ended and I was the high bidder. It felt like I won the lottery.
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I totally RELATE!!!!!
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07-18-2014, 06:21 PM
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Matt,
Congrats with your new addition. ... I found out Benikanzashi and Hanakanzashi are two different varieties but the differences are never cited. NWO has them listed as separate varieties.
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These two are available from NWO? Hmmmmm....(I must resist...) sending email to verify NWO has these two plants...(I must resist...resist)
Thanks a lot Marc! BTW, can't wait to see your spreadsheet...
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07-18-2014, 06:25 PM
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These two are available from NWO? Hmmmmm....(I must resist...) sending email to verify NWO has these two plants...(I must resist...resist)
Thanks a lot Marc! BTW, can't wait to see your spreadsheet...
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As we all know, in these events, resisting is a happily doomed endeavor.
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07-18-2014, 07:00 PM
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These two are available from NWO? Hmmmmm....(I must resist...) sending email to verify NWO has these two plants...(I must resist...resist)
Thanks a lot Marc! BTW, can't wait to see your spreadsheet...
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Yep, Benikanzashi and Hanakanzashi are on the site !
Not for free though, you'd better resist. Lol!
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07-18-2014, 08:44 PM
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Yep, Benikanzashi and Hanakanzashi are on the site !
Not for free though, you'd better resist. Lol!
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Also Orchids Ltd. has a Hanakanzashi listed 'buy it now' on ebay with the following note/disclaimer:
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Neofinetia falcata 'Hanakanzashi' (floral hairpin) 花簪 1 growth Plus 1 Baby
Origin is said to be from Kochi prefecture, however this is a mutation of 'Shutennou'.
Hanakanzashi can produce triple spur flowers once well established. Smaller plants tend to not always produce triple spurs.
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07-18-2014, 08:54 PM
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Thanks Jayfar.
Together we are slowly getting the knowledge on our babies.
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