Move over, Fûkiran!

[kentaki]

Sorry, this thread is not about Neofinetia (or Vanda falcata). But I have seen a thread on Vanda or even Phalaenopsis japonica here. Mods, feel free to move this.

1. 深山麦蘭

There are other variegated Japanese orchids that are gaining popularity. One is 深山麦蘭/Miyama Mugiran (Bulbophyllum japonicum). Unlike Neofinetia or Den. moniliforme cultivars, these do not have a name to describe a group of cultivars.

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Apparently, many Fûkiran growers grow them, and these are very popular. And difficult to get. Not that expensive, but plants with a few to several pseudobulbs may cost over $100.

2. 錦蘭

This is a genre (Nishiki Ran) that developed about the same time Fûkiran did. Unfortunately, none of cultivars survived. You can enjoy digitized woodblock prints:
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These are basically Goodyera schlechtendaliana cultivars with some 芸/gei. Modern selections can be seen at these sites:
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These are gaining in popularity, and according to 自然と野生ラン, a popular publication on "wild" plants, these are like "it" orchids. Very hard to buy at stores.

3. 大黒蘭

Those are mostly selected cultivars of Liparis formosana but also include Liparis nervosa. Unnamed cultivars may not be difficult to find.

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I like them, but they look like Hosta to me.

4. 小町蘭

In this particular case, we know who came up with this name. These are selected cultivars of Spiranthes sinensis var. amoena (australis?). These were very popular one time, but very difficult to maintain in culture. So the popularity kinda died out. But still interesting to look at:
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These probably won't take over popularity of Fûkiran, but it is an interesting development. Maybe not for Fûkiran purists, but I like mine.

[vjo]

OK. You have shown us some real beauties. Now tell us how to get tnem. I have to know!! lol......Jean

[kentaki]

Originally Posted by vjo

OK. You have shown us some real beauties. Now tell us how to get tnem. I have to know!! lol......Jean

I still have connections, and have some friends. That is how I get/got mine.

I believe Dr. Lehr can bring plants back from Japan. If he can find them, he can bring back. But *only if* he can find them. I do not think that they do not want to sell these to foreigners despite a comment made by somebody. Chinese and Koreans spend a lot of money on Fûkiran. So the comment is absurd.

But to me, I am not sure why there aren't more variegated orchids to begin with whether they are native or foreign. Four species of Goodyera are native here. People keep making comments how small Japan's land is, which is partially true, but why aren't there any variegated Goodyera pubescens or Spiranthes cernua found or available in the U.S., which is much larger than Japan? I recall seeing a picture of variegated Goodyera pubescens, and that is it.

It does not have to be orchids, but what about variegated native plants? There are some, but a lot. That has been a mystery to me, and I have been wondering why. I hope that people would be starting to find variegated US native orchids.

[rangiku]

Thank you for posting these, ken. They are beautiful and mounded and presented as exquisitely as Neos. Wonder what the flowers look like...

[Bud]

Marvelous presentation! The elaborate antique pots and mini wooden stand alone already cost a fortune. I saw a hexagonal iron wood that is extinct and only found in old antique collections handed down as an heirloom.... the variegated Bulbophyllum is really rare. You showed us a showcase of seedlings for sale. I would like to look at the specimen sized mother plants in bloom.

[kentaki]

Originally Posted by Bud

the variegated Bulbophyllum is really rare. You showed us a showcase of seedlings for sale. I would like to look at the specimen sized mother plants in bloom.

Did I? I am not sarcastic here. I thought I only copied and pasted links to a blog (x3) and one site on Bulb. japonicum.

I am only aware of two or three vendors for Bulb. japonicum. There are some nurseries that may have these from time to time, though.

As for flowers, there is a variety that has yellow flowers. Flowers look like tiny Daisy Chain type. No fragrance, which can be a blessing:
https://www.google.com/search?q=bulb...w=1440&bih=798

[kentaki]

This is a vendor that I had in my mind. They seem to have variegated Bulb. japonicum cultivar from time to time, and it ain't cheap.

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About $180.

And if you look at the blog, you are going to see $13,000 for 大観, $2,000 for an old Imari pot, $2,000 for 紅水晶, $3,800 for 錦麒麟. and $1,000 for a very small plant of 於多賀中斑 (Den. moniliforme) that has three tiny, tiny pseudobulbs.

But the most scary thing one would be: "Please contact for price." Imagine how uncomfortable it would be if it is way more than you thought ("How am I going to end the conversation and hang up?"). And most of these are sold, so somebody must be buying...

[JungleMel]

I love variegated orchids and earlier in the year I shelled out more than I woukd have liked to for a variegated Dendrobium speciosum 'Tanchouzuru' seedling, similar to the ones listed on Satomi's site TANCHOUZURU???? - Neofinetia falcata/Japanese orchid/Samurai orchid/SEED ENGEI I wonder how popular these are in Japan?

I'd like to see more variegated orchid species in the US, that's for sure, but I realize it being maybe 1 in a couple hundred thousand seedlings turning out variegated and living to be mature enough to be divided or cloned takes some time to say the least.

[kentaki]

Originally Posted by JungleMel

I love variegated orchids and earlier in the year I shelled out more than I woukd have liked to for a variegated Dendrobium speciosum 'Tanchouzuru' seedling, similar to the ones listed on Satomi's site TANCHOUZURU???? - Neofinetia falcata/Japanese orchid/Samurai orchid/SEED ENGEI I wonder how popular these are in Japan?

Seems kinda popular among regular orchid growing crowd and people who would grow this kind of stuff. And I'd only say the price is very affordable (read the line). One interesting thing is, I have never seen a picture of flowers.

There are at least two variegated clones of Den. kingianum. One is called 'Aya Nishiki' (Marvelous Brocade?). Supposedly this one blooms, and I am wondering about mine.
https://iris.toyoake.or.jp/catalog/item/697/

I purchased a variegated clone of Den. anosmum from a vendor based in Taiwan. I believe this one is really Den. Nestor (anosmum x parishii). They also had a miniature Dendrobium, Den. Cool Beans. Of course, there is no such hybrid registered, and found out it probably was an unregistered Thai hybrid. That was frustrating. People who went to the MAOC show this fall may know what I am referring to.

Originally Posted by JungleMel

I'd like to see more variegated orchid species in the US, that's for sure, but I realize it being maybe 1 in a couple hundred thousand seedlings turning out variegated and living to be mature enough to be divided or cloned takes some time to say the least.

I am sure many people are repelled by the idea of collecting orchids from wild. I think it would be ok if the species is abundant and as long as collection is done ethically and sustainably. Goodyera pubescens is a wide spread species and locally abundant. And yet, I have seen only one picture of variegated clone. Is this because of something unique to this species preventing variegated clones from survival in nature, or variegation simply does not occur in this species? Variegated clones of other Goodyera species such as G. velutina, G. biflora and G. henryi are also found in Japan and occasionally available.

I also stated that there aren't many variegated plants of the U.S. origin to begin with. This is very perplexing to me. I would think patriotic (no sarcasm here) Americans would be interested in plants growing in their country, and to a certain extent, it is true, but may be not as much as I would expect. It would be interesting to see a genre of variegated U.S. native orchids developing and wiping out some foreign species like Fûkiran.