Neo Hybrids - Page 2 - Orchid Board

jeremiah.chua · #11 10-02-2013, 05:34 PM

I'm on the same boat with Coffeecup about hybrids! I usually avoid them as well.
Been wanting a darwinara charm but Seed-Engei never sells the red/pink flowered one, always the purple flower

I do have a 'Lou Sneary Blue Bird' though. Freaking love that one. It's pretty small for a vanda though definitely larger than my neos. It's producing a spike right now and I'm anticipating flowers in the next few weeks. I love, love, LOVE the flowers. Beautiful, large and smells great. Super easy to care for too! This is a must-have for anyone. Neolover or not.

Jayfar · #12 10-02-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeecup

I think the reason I don't like them as much is because the growth habit can get much larger than standard Neos. I just really like compact sizes. I do like some of the white/blue flowered hybrids though. Where else does one acquire these hybrids? I'm curious to see more photos.

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Originally Posted by jeremiah.chua

I'm on the same boat with Coffeecup about hybrids! I usually avoid them as well.
Been wanting a darwinara charm but Seed-Engei never sells the red/pink flowered one, always the purple flower

I do have a 'Lou Sneary Blue Bird' though. Freaking love that one. It's pretty small for a vanda though definitely larger than my neos. It's producing a spike right now and I'm anticipating flowers in the next few weeks. I love, love, LOVE the flowers. Beautiful, large and smells great. Super easy to care for too! This is a must-have for anyone. Neolover or not.

Me too on the hybrid avoidance and the Neostylus Lou Sneery 'Bluebird' as well (which I bought in bloom from a different vendor the same day I bought my first Neos). I may eventually try one or two, but I've got my phals for color.

As for the size issue, I figure if I ever retire and have to scale back due to finances, my Neos would be the most sustainable part of my collection.

On the other hand, I would like to get my hands on one of those Phalanetia Irene (Neofinetia falcata x Phalaenopsis equestris), like the one Jim in MI owns and posted about over on the Big leaf forum. Search for thread "A nifty intergeneric...." I'm thinking of doing that cross myself.

brn_thmbs · #13 10-02-2013, 06:57 PM

I got my Vandofinetia White Crane to bloom for the first time earlier.
Here's a link to the thread http://www.orchidboard.com/community...ad.php?t=70730

Here's a pic

I also have a few Ascofinetias, recently got another smaller Vandofinetia (I forget what it is now)
Yep, I'm a fan of the Neo hybrids too

AnonYMouse · #14 10-02-2013, 07:26 PM

I currently have a SE hybrid of some sort (no name nor parent info) and two that are thought to be hybrids (Yusui and Koyo). They've retained their neo-ness and were purchased for their (potential) colors.

The Darwinara, Ascofinetia, Neostylus just haven't struck a chord with me.

Mokeck · #15 10-02-2013, 11:30 PM

The possibilities for hybrids of N. falcata with other Vandaceous orchids are limitless and I'll bet a good grower with a keen eye for beauty could do well selling just them. Like coffeecup I prefer the blue/white hybrids and I'd like to see the better ones - Darwinara, Neostylis, Vandofinetoa KCC and Blaupunkt - crossed back to the falcata parent or on the other end, a V. coerulea, preferably a var. alba. Plant size and shape matter, but it's the individual flowers I like most and Kelly's Cloud Catcher is wonderfully influenced by the V. coerulea grandparent - the petals reflex nicely, the lip is small compared to the tepals, and on some clones about half the flowers turn pure white but keep their shape a few days before they fall off, the most delicate and pristine white orchid I can think of even though they're small.

I vowed no more orchids until the Tamiami Show, but when I saw this I thought I had to have it. Perriarara Luke Thai is Vanda, Aierides, and Rhynchostylis. Crossed to Vandofinetia Virgil (V. cristata X N. falcata), you get Sanjumeara Crownfox Delight. I really like these flowers but have little hope of finding one. Maybe R. F. Fuchs?

coffeecup · #16 10-03-2013, 02:34 AM

Wow, Mokeck, I wouldn't mind having that one either. Its very unusual looking!

Pilot · #17 10-03-2013, 01:09 PM

Wow, i guess i'm in the minority with loving these hybrids. I also love vandas-- as in the huge ones that'll strangulate you if you're not careful. So I guess the size doesn't bother me. Compared to vandas, these hybrids are tiny. Although I do admit to favoring those that are crossed back with neos-- I think less because they're smaller and more because they are typically better flowers with a stronger neo scent.

I'm gonna do some orchid shopping. Perhaps neo hybridizing is my calling.

Jayfar · #18 10-03-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot

I also love vandas-- as in the huge ones that'll strangulate you if you're not careful.

I love vandas too, even though it's a chore putting them in the shower every morning when I come home from work. My raggedy V. Coerulea finally rewarded me after nearly 2 years.

This spike is actually coming out of a big keiki, which emerged a long time ago after I almost lost the plant to a rot at the top. The keiki starts where you see the uppermost root. Buds started opening a week or so ago. Only two at the tip of the spike blasted. The blooms are very closely spaced, but as best I can count there are 8 opened, 2 starting to open and one more bud.

The color is as close as I could get it, but it's really a little more toward a lavender or purple color than it appears here. Pic is from yesterday.

V.coerulea-20131002 by Jayfar, on Flickr

And here's the whole plant on Sept. 19:

V.coerulea-20130919 by Jayfar, on Flickr

Pilot · #19 10-03-2013, 02:04 PM

Jayfar, it's beautiful! as time goes you'll adapt your grow space to your plants, as they adapt to try to meet your conditions (as you know). Mine now live in a room that is water proofed and they get hit twice a day for 20 minutes of a heavy misting system.... though I still dunk my plants to fertilize them (they are heavy feeders!).

My biggest vanda is having its own issues right now

The top leaf showed some rot and it looks bad but time has passed and I found green, healthy tissue below it so I believe the crown is still ok.

coffeecup · #20 10-03-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilot

Wow, i guess i'm in the minority with loving these hybrids. I also love vandas-- as in the huge ones that'll strangulate you if you're not careful. So I guess the size doesn't bother me. Compared to vandas, these hybrids are tiny. Although I do admit to favoring those that are crossed back with neos-- I think less because they're smaller and more because they are typically better flowers with a stronger neo scent.

I'm gonna do some orchid shopping. Perhaps neo hybridizing is my calling.

Ryan, have you been getting my emails?